[python] Re: A Bicycle Can Be Self-Stable Without Gyroscopic or Caster Effects

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  • Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:11:17 +0800 (WST)

Now I understand your time loop hint :) !
Sorry, I must confess I am new into this. Note, however, that I proposed to do experiments :)
Ok ok, experiments, but indeed with 'theoretical stuff' in mind - I personally think it is always nice to understand the "why"s of the success behind the trial and error, but I am theoretically biased and I perfectly understand that it's not everyone's taste. I agree with you: you may well have found "the sweet spot" with the P3 (or the later redesigns you are referring to). Well, you have found that spot for yourself, and that's the most important thing. Many Python owner might have ultimately found their own sweet spot too. Perhaps others have not? I am not yet a Python owner, so for me in the mean time, I try to figure out why this design is a sweet spot, especially due to the rather unconvential design if I may speak so... But I agree, you will just tell me: build one. And I probably should... 

Sorry again, and thanks for the python endeavour!
Regards,
Pascal


On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, Jürgen Mages wrote:
Honestly, it's like a deja-vu: We have been through this theoretical stuff 4 years ago and it did not lead to any results, other than brain-burnout. I wouldn't wonder if next pops up the virtual steering pivot idea again ;-)
Yesterday I rode my P3 and felt perfectly happy with it. In the last 7 years we developed two major working designs and that was not the result of math calculations but of trial and error. 

Or maybe I am just too old ;-)

Cheers,
Jürgen.

On 18.04.2011 07:59, dirk@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

no, actually, its a design loop! devote yourself over and over to the same
variables and you'll always find something new :-)
- DirkS "Jürgen Mages" <jmages@xxxxxx> hat am 17. April 2011 um 20:24 geschrieben: 


Help me - I am trapped in a time loop ...

Jürgen.


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