Interesting point Mark although 2x6's will raise the floor height in a slightly cramped space. It's the floor joists for the attic or ceiling joists for 2nd floor. I'm not sure how you refer to them. The floor is mostly unfinished with loose planks, so we want to pull those old boards out and replace it with an even floor w/access for junction boxes. With the boards out it'll be easy access to the joists, insulate, etc. Over the last couple weeks we found out how much of a blessing hail storms are. While the golfball sized hail was coming down I was bemoaning the loss of my struggling garden plants. Little did I know the windfall we were about to receive. New siding, insulation, window caps, roof for house and garage, garage joists were sistered and major repairs done there. With $ left over they were able to do extra work as well. What company even tells you there's $ left over? If you're in the Chicago area I know a great company. Before After The glass block windows shown are in the studio here. :) On the photo side of things now, I'm printing a large body of work for a famous portrait photog here and tested Ilford warmtone, Foma WT, and Oriental WT. Ilford's is barely warm using Ansco 115 developer which is afaik, the warmest developer one can use @1:4 or 1:5. Foma was nice but is a dang slow paper. Oriental WT was the bestest of the lot in Ansco 115 @1:5 for 2-2.5 mins. It also has a warm/cream base and I can recommend it if one likes warm toned prints. Client has said some prints are the best he's seen of particular images that had been printed previously. Many haven't been printed before. I'd be interested in hearing of any developer that provides warmer results if there is such a formula. e ________________________________ From: "mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:43 AM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: light tight louvered vents In many applications Id rather have the 122 year old lumber than some of the excuse for lumber they have available today. If its sagging make sure it was strong enough in the first place. They have a better understanding of spans distances and strength needed to handle the loads for a given span. You may need 2x6 instead of 2x4's Is the inside finished?? Would adding a post or two for support be a big problem in the use of the room? May not be a big deal for some rooms, but if you need to drive a car in, it better be a pretty big room to get it in and not hit a post. LOL You would be amazed at how well some of the old sheds have held up over time. -------- Original Message -------- >Subject: [pure-silver] Re: light tight louvered vents >From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx> >Date: Sat, February 18, 2012 9:23 am >To: "pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >Thanks Ken that's what I was thinking too! >The old 2x4's are much larger than present day but still they ain't that >strong esp. after 122 years. > > > >________________________________ > > > >If some of the ceiling joists are sagging, others will likely soon follow. >Sister them all and be done with it! Of course you need to take into >consideration the additional weight load from the new lumber added, so maybe >you should remove/replace all the ceiling joists. Go to HGTV and ask Mike >Holmes! > >Ken Hart >kwhart1@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.