Edward I like to talk to you in more detail (maybe via the phone one evening this week). You are making a few good points. However, I'm trying to make a complex issue simpler. I don't want a complete list of all 'potentials'. I like to keep a list of realistic and practical manufacturers up-to-date. No exotic stuff either. Simple B&W film and paper with good or reasonable quality and available too. Regards Ralph W. Lambrecht http://www.darkroomagic.com On 2006-02-14 09:39, "Edward C. Zimmermann" <edz@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Quoting "Ralph W. Lambrecht" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > >> Fuji's Rembrandt paper is made by Fuji, but again not intended for export >> with some exporters to do so anyway. It will be added to the list. >> >> Oriental paper is made by... Ilford! > > Ralph, not so quick.. Even "IF" the new emulsions are from Ilford they are > being finished in Japan and the old emulsions are still available (just > no longer being coated). Can Cybergraphics (the current name of Oriental) > still coat? > > In talking about a lot of materials we are NOT really talking about coating > since few of us (not even the makers) really know what they'll be coating > (and offering) only what they have in stocks (either cut down or still in > master/jumbo rolls) and what they could make should they choose to. A lot > of materials don't get coated very often. Technical Pan, for instance, may > have been discontinued a year ago but the last time it was coated was > in the 1990s. Some companies still can coat but don't and a few companies > selling product don't coat anymore since they no longer have the coating > capacity. Ilford, for example, had the capacity but for a time was not > coating (and the future was open). AgfaPhoto (currently in liquidation) has > the capacity but stopped coating (and the future of the coating capacity is > open and bleak). > > Instead maybe of asking "who is making film and paper" and "what", it might > make more sense to ask "Who still has the capacity to coat film and/or > paper"? And then ask (not the same question): Who is currently coating. > > The list will look quite different and many MORE companies will show up.. > There are several companies in the world currently coating motion picture > print, X-Ray and special industrial materials. The intellectual content of > our films, of course, are different but we are talking of "capacity" (and > among the list are companies with IP but no capacity)... > > We need to also talk about product. There are many suitable "industrial" > films that can well be used into our cameras.. such as traffic/surveillance, > microfilm and cine stocks. There are loads of 35mm microfilms available (and > its still hardly obsolete technology). Sure, few microfilms are available for > our 35mm cameras as most are unperforated.. but they CAN be perforated.. > > P.S.: Fotokemika no longer exists and has gone into liquidation. The property > in Zagreb was sold. The machines were moved and the company went bankrupt. > The new company is "Nova Fotokemika" in Samobor. This is, I think, the basis > for the name "Adox" as the future of Efke is unclear. Are they coating? ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.