Yes the formula I quoted contains 100 g of sodium sulfite. The pH of ID-68 should be higher than that of the Microphen substitute since the borax to boric acid ratio is higher. Everything is pretty much the same between the two. The published pH of fresh Microphen according to Ilford in 8.67 - 8.93 -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:21 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: What happens when XTOL dies ----- Original Message ----- From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: What happens when XTOL dies For my previous post, if it's of any interest, the pH of the developer listed in Patent 5,210,010 assigned to Ilford is 8.5 +/- 0.05 when diluted 1+4. The pH for the Microphen substitute is 8.8 +/- 0.13. Jerry Is the substitute the formula with 100 grams of sulfite? If so do you know the pH of ID-68 or of Microphen? Kodak has the pH of several of its developers listed, I have the publication but forget which it is. I will look for it. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ======================================================================== ===================================== To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.