[pure-silver] Re: What happens when XTOL dies

  • From: "Bob Younger" <younger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: 26 Feb 2006 15:57:08 -0800
  • Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:56:13 -0800

I'm not going to postulate that my experience is the
definitive answer, but as Richard K. pointed out, this has
come up in a number of forums over the past few years. One
discriminator seems to be that mixing the stock and working
solutions with distilled water makes a difference. My
recollection of earlier discussions was that people who
mixed with tap water were the ones who experienced the early
death of their Xtol. I recall that everyone who mixed with
distilled water said they had never experienced this
problem; and a Kodak representative weighed in on the
discussion and said that ALL chemicals were designed to be
mixed with distilled water because the variability of tap
water around the world was WAY too much for manufacturers to
plan/compensate for.
I used Xtol for a couple of years before discovering Pyro
(which I use now) and experienced the sudden death syndrome
once, when I mixed it with tap water.
I KNOW that someone is going to reply to this and say they
ALWAYS mix with distilled water; and ALWAYS use clean
equipment; and they have experienced the subject syndrome.
So, let me just add that using distilled water and
absolutely clean equipment is the process chemists use to
ensure consistency in experiments and production. As
photographers we risk a measure of inconsistency if we don't
at least follow those proven processes. I'm not here
defending Xtol, but I know that many photographers use tap
water to mix their chemicals, including stock solutions. All
I'm advocating is minimizing the variables.

Bob Younger

> Well, you see what happens when Xtol dies.  It doesn't
> turn yellow, but rather it barely develops film.  I
> recommend testing with a film leader before development if

> the Xtol is more than a few months old, or if it was
> stored in a questionable manner. I'm sorry to hear about
> your problem.  A similar thing happened recently to me
> using PC-TEA.

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