I tried some Oriental VC warm tone paper the other day and found that I liked it, yet couldn't find any mention of it in a quick search of the archives. I'd been using Forte Polywarmtone but since it's demise, have been wondering which warmtone paper to use next. I haven't a body of work I need to match, so starting with a new brand is fine. In some ways I wished I had started using Oriental WT much sooner thinking back to some 180 second exposures on Forte. I found the Oriental MUCH faster and higher contrast than Forte. Also it was much warmer thereby negating the need to mix Ansco 115 every time I want to use a warmtone paper and get a really warm image. Ansco 115 (glycin) and Oriental might give even better results than Dektol 1:1 but having a high degree of warmth in common ol' dektol is a plus for Oriental paper. Forte on top of being glacially slow, typically needed a 3.5 filter to print nicely from a PMK neg. Using higher contrast filters caused the print to render less warm so I would frequently need to dilute more to countereact that, thereby increasing development times. I've found that Bergger's warmtone performed equally in terms of speed to Forte and seemed to offer no major difference other than a thicker paper, which is nice in some respects yet doesn't, in my mind, justify the cost of it. My testing of it is not nearly as extensive as with Forte. So I'm wondering what others have experienced and their preferences in terms of warmtone papers that are still avaiable. I'm hoping that there are folks on the list that have worked or still do work with all or most of them to give me an idea if I should keep with Oriental for now or test some others. I have tried Ilford's warmtone as well, but didn't find the warmth as great nor any paper speed advantage. There's Fomatone and perhaps a few others I've not tried and I'm curious as to what people have found in their testing and printing experiences as to what works best for them I know there can be more opinions on this than there are days in the year, but I'm just hoping to either confirm my experience, or find a consensus of some sort to steer me to one other paper to try without having to test every warmtone paper and developer combination out there ...again. Eric http://archival-photo.net http://www.eman-photo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.