[pure-silver] Re: The Quest and My Heresy??

  • From: "Ralph W. Lambrecht" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: PureSilverNew <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:09:09 +0100

I agree with Eric. There are sooo many examples to prove his point.





Regards



Ralph W. Lambrecht

http://www.darkroomagic.com







On 2006-12-18 16:46, "EJ Neilsen" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> David Wrote...  "The process does impact the image......  For me, "Moonrise"
> is a rather mundane subject made beautiful by AA's darkroom skills."
> 
> Sitting here this morning reading the thread of the Quest requires my 2
> cents : ) 
> 
> 
> And I'll use David's point about Moonrise to make mine. The Moonrise image
> may or may not be most spectacular image every made that will be determined
> by how it attaches itself to the mind of the individual viewer. The fact
> that the negative is not all that great technically speaks to a large part
> of this thread. How many great images came from less than perfect negs?
> Nobody knows or will ever no the answer to that question in numerical sense,
> but in a less perfect way the answer is, it doesn't really matter. What
> matters is how many make the effort. The effort is everything that happens
> behind the print from location, format, the totality of the individual that
> made the image. What is presented is ALL that should matter to the viewer.
> The semi permeable membrane of life allows the two to interact. If Ansel's
> moonrise didn't have an attraction, how many of us would know that the
> negative was not technically perfect? Or what he may have thought to be
> technically perfect for his needs, which is the far more important than what
> we think of his negative. Some need to know what went on behinds the lens,
> both camera and enlarger, and for others it is truly about the print and how
> it makes you feel. There is no need to pass through the membrane and see
> intent of the moment. There is a commercial on about great moments in
> American sports moments that follows this somewhat. What if Michael Jordan
> missed that shot against Cleveland, Dwight Clark didn't make that catch in
> the back of the end zone? These things are great to discuss, but the print
> of Moonrise did happen, and the shot of Penn's village people did get
> printed in platinum.  You can fight about what moment they became art but
> they have. 
> 
> 
> Digging into an artist' file drawers after death is a curious endeavor. How
> many of us would like to see our work prints viewed or negatives examined
> with a fine tooth comb? We all have moments of lucid thoughts that lead to
> WOWs, some even get seen or heard.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-
>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Koch, Gerald
>> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:44 AM
>> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: The Quest and My Heresy??
>> 
>>> Again, *in some cases*, the original image just acts as a canvas and
>> it's the post-processing that creates the
>>> WOW factor.
>>> 
>>> There are various excellent examples in Tim Rudman's books where the
>> straight prints look (sorry Tim !) just
>>> boring but the final result is of another magnitude.
>> 
>> I have a completely different take on this.  If a straight print is
>> boring then no amount of manipulation is going to turn that negative
>> into a great photo.  Just producing a striking print is not enought.
>> There has to be someting there to start with.  That's the reason that I
>> don't tone or do anything else to my prints.  If a negative can't speak
>> for itself then nothing is going to help it and that's the end of it.
>> 
>> Copying others is a good learning technique but not something that one
>> wants to keep doing.  I am reminded of the composer Engelbert
>> Humperdinck who venerated the work of Wagner.  Except for his opera
>> Hansel and Gretel he comes off as a second rate, imitation Wagner.
>> There are too many two bit Ansel Adams in photography today.  To cite
>> only one example.
>> 
>> Jerry
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