[pure-silver] Re: Oh How I Miss This Paper

  • From: harry kalish <hksvk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:25:57 -0500

Thank you for this, Richard.   ---Harry


On 1/29/11 8:51 PM, "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>      A couple of notes: I believe Geveluxe was available in
> several surfaces, the Velours being only one of them. I have
> relatively little information on older Gevaert stuff
> although I used a lot of Gevaert film and paper, especially
> Artex, in highschool.
>      AGFA used a non-standard numbering system for their
> paper grades until about 1980, I don't remember the date.
> The numbers were one number _higher_ than Kodak numbers for
> the same contrast, that is, normal was AGFA No.3 and Kodak
> No.2. So AGFA Grade-6 was about the same as Kodak Grade-5,
> not an additional super contrasty grade.
>      AGFA and Ansco: Ansco was the chief competitor of Kodak
> and the oldest photographic materials company in the United
> States. It was a merger of several companies, notably E &
> H.T. Anthony and the Scoville manufacturing company. That
> became Anthony & Scoville for a short time and then Ansco,
> the renaming taking place sometime around 1910. In 1926
> Ansco was bought by the German company AGFA, which was then
> a branch of the giant German chemical cartel I.G.Farben. The
> merged company gradually suppressed the Ansco name in favor
> of Agfa. Agfa/Ansco made film and paper in the USA based on
> the emulsions developed in Germany. Many of the products
> shared the same name as the German products but some didn't.
> In about 1917, when the US entered the WW-2 all German-owned
> properties in the US were seized by the government so from
> 1941 AGFA-Ansco was run by the government. The Agfa name
> persisted until about 1944 when it was dropped completely
> and the name Ansco re-appeared. However, Ansco continued to
> use many Agfa formulas and techniques for their emulsions.
> Ansco was returned to private hands on a date I am not sure
> of but the company was fairly quickly mis-managed to death.
> AGFA re-emerged on the US market directly selling
> German-made products. The curious thing is that I remember
> well how Ansco paper smelled and AGFA papers had exactly the
> same odor.
>      Neither Ansco or AGFA seems to have had the control
> over coating and perhaps paper making that Kodak had so the
> surfaces were never as uniform, at least not for the older
> fiber based papers. In terms of appearance I think both AGFA
> and Ansco made some of the most attractive papers ever on
> the market.
>      Another BTW, while Edward Weston is somehow associated
> with Azo he noted in his day books that he actually used
> quite a lot of Defender and Agfa papers.
> 
> --
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
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