[pure-silver] Re: Of diapers, potties and mailinglists [was: Re: FYI]
- From: "Edward C. Zimmermann" <edz@xxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:26:41 +0200
Quoting John <jd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> At 03:29 PM 9/11/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >If anyone wants more, let me know what it is and I will see what I can do.
>
> Ya know I'm beginning to think that potty-training my
> three-year-old son is easier than running this list.
Again: There is the difference between our philosophies. We don't "potty-train"
our kids but let them make up their own minds. We just offer support and
encouragement when they want it. We provide the enabling technology (a
reducing ring for the toilet and a wood step they can use) but don't make
them do anything. Don't train them.
We provided also the diaper technology:
Washable diapers that need to be changed when wet and not disposable.
Folded cotton cloth inside and wool or special materials outside.
And, of course, the labor..
My daughter Davida never liked to wear her diapers and is a strong willed,
thick headed, extroverted little girl so once she started walking she
started going to the toilet and within a few months-- before around 1 1/2
years old-- the diapers got packed away in the closet. My son Yoel seemed
less anti-diapers (boys I guess are indeed slower and less keen at controlling
their body functions) and he's now more-or-less clean at a bit over 2. The
diapers are not yet packed away but he's not been wearing any for a month..
It seems the control of his own waste and his ability to communicate in
language are nearly linked..
I suspect diapers might be an interesting allegory to the issue with these
mailing lists, freelists.org and all. Pampers(tm) might be the path of least
resistance but it creates the largest trash and kids seem to stay in them
for years longer--- and weening them off seems to demand effort--- and, worse
still, some suspicions that they increase scrotal temperature with unknown
effects (but some rather controversial hypothesis including suspected
impact on furtility). Diaper makers such as Pampers(tm) have responded with
claimed improvements in their product as now "breathable" but even-if there
was no health related problem, trash is still trash. So where is the market(ing)
driven trend? Its as-if to encourage children to soak in their diapers untill
age 6 while torturing them to be "potty trained" so they can go to kindergarten
and then give them a few years untill they are ready for the Tena(tm)s (given
the tremendious advertising budget with non-stop TV ads running on German TV
they must sell quantity)?
Some, of course, may rightly argue that diapers themselves are not really
needed and pose only a false convienience for the parent. Perhaps.
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Edward C. Zimmermann, Basis Systeme netzwerk, Munich
Office Leo (R&D):
Leopoldstrasse 53-55, D-80802 Munich,
Federal Republic of Germany
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