[pure-silver] Re: Mystery Hypo Test

  • From: "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:48:30 -0800


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph W. Lambrecht" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Mystery Hypo Test


Richard

I'm looking for a more reliable hypo test for films without having to go to methylene blue. As far as I know, HT-2 is very useful for paper but virtually useless for films, because the stain cannot be quantified on clear film. Consequently, HT-2 is not a good replacement
for HT-1.

I also think that HT-1 accuracy is underrated. Its application is usually published the same way you described it, with limited accuracy, because it tests the wash water and not the emulsion itself. However, when modifying the test slightly, it can deliver amazing sensitivity. I modified the standard test procedure as follows: I immerse a fully washed film into a 0.5-liter bath of distilled water. With light agitation, let it soak for 6-10 minutes, after which, the residual thiosulfate is fully diffused and an equilibrium between film and wash water is reached. In other words, at that point, the thiosulfate concentration of the wash water is the same as that of
the film emulsion.

This way, I can detect down to 1 mg/l of hypo with HT-1, which is sufficient, because a typical 35mm or 120 roll film has a surface area of roughly 80 in^2 or 0.05 m^2. If it has been washed to the archival standard of 15 mg/m^2, and the residual thiosulfate of one roll film (0.75 mg) is fully diffused in 0.5 liter wash water, the thiosulfate
concentration of the water must be at or below 1.5 mg/l.

I was hoping to have found an even more accurate test with this
Crabtree formula, but it may not work.


You are assuming that there is no hypo bonded to the gelatin or image silver. Where acid hypo has been used this is possible. Binding is less of a problem for film than for fiber paper where hypo can be bound up in the baryta layer or in the fiber structure of the support. The permanganate test was discontinued because it was simply not effective. The silver nitrate test is better. I will see if I can come up with some citations.

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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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