[pure-silver] Re: Kodak vs Ilford

  • From: İbrahim Pamuk <ibrahim.pamuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:44:45 +0200

Hi,

I have not dome print masking till now. I believe one has to print negative to 
another film and then sandwich both and then print. Exposure in this moment is 
the art. Would it be feasible for 35 mm.?

Regards

Ibrahim Pamuk

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Bob Pace, with 50 years of experience, years ago developed masking
techniques for "Gasper Color", which was the fore runner of Cibachrome, has
written a self published book "Masking for Photographic Processes" This book
is a very practical approach.

Knut Kvistad self published a book "Photocomposition, A reference guide"
This book gets into some of the more esoteric use of masking.

David Doubley self published a book "The Dye Transfer Process"
This book really explores the techniques of Masking

Howard Bond wrote a definitive series of articles for "Darkroom Techniques"
The collection presents a detailed discussion of masking in relation to
Black and white photography. A visit to phototechmag.com
Might be a source of reprints, and back issues of Howard Bond's articles.

Lynn Radeka wrote a chapter in "Way Beyond Monochrome" about masking
techniques, then he self published "Contrast Masking Kit" A compilation of
masking techniques and special procedures. Parts of this originally appeared
in Darkroom and Creative Camera Techniques 1989 issues July-August "Contrast
Reduction Masks", September-October "Shadow Contrast Increase Masks",
November-December "Highlight Masks" by Mark Jilg and Dennis McNutt. These
articles present a great overview with great photos.


David Malin wrote a ten page article in Kodak's "techbits" issue #1 1990 on
image enhancement using unsharp masks.

Barry Thornton's book "Edge of Darkness" chapter 13 "The Mask of Sorrow" 
Eloquently writes about his experiences with masking. 

These authors cover the subject well, from the very simple calibrated by the
eye ball method to the very exact. 
 
Jonathan Ayers [mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:17 PM
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak vs Ilford

Hi all,

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Jason McPeak wrote:
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> On 3/22/08, Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

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>         Local contrast can also be reduced by the use of
>     contrast masks. These can be made with a contrast higher
>     than the negative so that they result in a non-linear final
>     curve. Contrast masks used to be common in color printing
>     especially with Cibachrome. They are not too difficult to do
>     for B&W. Similar effects can be gotten from electronic image
>     editing programs like Photoshop but many are not aware that
>     they can be generated photographically albeit with more
>     work.

Perhaps some elaboration on contrast masks in the analog darkroom??? My 
understanding is that it entails burning a certain area while using a 
higher contrast filter???

Cheers,
Bogdan
> 
>         A last word on film curves: I think the best explanation
>     of their effect is in the older Kodak film databooks. I have
>     no idea where to find these other than camera swap meets or
>     dealers specializing in this kind of thing. Its possible
>     some library systems may have them. The edition is not
>     important because the same text was reprinted with the film
>     data sheets tipped in. Its the text you want so having
>     obsolete data sheets is of no consequence.
> 
> 
>     ---
>     Richard Knoppow
>     Los Angeles, CA, USA
>     dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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