[pure-silver] Re: Humidty Controlled Storage

  • From: Grif <kgriffit@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:55:06 -0800


Old fridge with a small light bulb to hold the internal temp above ambenent. The home shop guys use them for welding rod. Not the proper approved fix,,, but affordable.

At 05:51 PM 12/27/2011, you wrote:
I looked into Robert's suggestion of the heating bar and spoke to the owner there. He said the bar is about 129° F and then performed like John Bower said. ;) The owner told a story of a condo assoc. that was having issues w/mold and they placed them into the closets there in 60 units and then they decided to buy them for the rest of the units once the test proved the bars to be effective 6 weeks later.

In a perfect world, I'd love to be able to build a crate to keep all my gear in as well as prints which is where I assume it might get tricky since I'd be creating a warm environment instead of a cool one. In Thailand all one has to do is have their gear in an AC'ed room for a while and once you step outside, the bodies and glass will fog up nicely. Someone I spoke to recently said their Leica shutters got rusty, which surprised me since they were Leica, but I don't recall what part of the world they had been in.

Desiccant is another option I'm looking into as well...perhaps for prints? Seems I have some options at least as Kingmaker has an 18" model that runs on 220V.
Eric

From: Laurence Cuffe <cuffe@xxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:08 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Humidty Controlled Storage

A heating bar can be quite effective. At one point I shared a room with a couple of spectrometers whose bases were heated mildly so as to protect the optics inside. My boss was particularly proud of one NaCl prism which had not neededd to be repolishedd in thirty years.
On a practical side rubermaid containers,
http://www.rubbermaid.com/Category/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?Prod_ID=RP091418
which can be sealed, and sachets of silica gell are an effective solution. Silica gell can be bought cost effectivly from florists, they use it to preserve dried flowers, and if you get a few sachets with indicator pellets, you can dry it out in the oven once it starts to reach its limit for absorbing moisture. When I moved to the states, I left some gear in sealed (closed and taped) containers with about 200g of silica gell pellets poured into each and it had no problems. My thinking was that taping the edges of the container lids would reduce gas//air exchange and that what fresh air that did arive as a result of temperature cycling would be dried out by the silica gel.
All the best
Laurence Cuffe

On Dec 27, 2011, at 04:50 PM, John Bower <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This "piano bar" looks like it's just a heating element. As such, it
will raise the temperature of a space, which means that the Relative
Humidity (RH) will go down. Because warm air can hold more moisture
than cool air, if the number of molecules of water vapor doesn't
change in a given volume of air, the RH will go down when the air is
warmed. The number of molecules of water vapor in a given volume of
air is the Absolute Humidity. For cellulosic materials (wood, paper,
etc.), RH is important, because they absorb more moisture when RH is
higher. In winter, the cool air may feel dry but, because the cool
air can't hold much moisture, the RH can be high, and paper (or wood)
will really want to suck it up.
--
John Bower, an Indiana Artisan
http://www.studioindiana.com/



On Dec 27, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Robert Hall wrote:

> We have had a piano for over 50 years. Inside is a bar that acts as
> a dehumidifier.
>
> This is similar to what we have. I've no idea if it will work for
> you but just an idea..
>
> http://www.kingmaker.net/mears0.htm
>
> Robert Hall
> <http://www.RobertHall.com>www.RobertHall.com
> www.RobertHall.com/workshops
> <http://www.facebook.com/robert.g.hall>www.facebook.com/robert.g.hall
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Eric Nelson <<mailto:emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> In talking with some folks, the humidity where I'll be moving to
> next year is a concern for camera gear and prints.
> I've not gotten a price quote yet, but am wondering if there is a
> simple inexpensive way to make a cabinet that can achieve similar
> results as a pro cabinet like these. It would be better to have
> something that doesn't cool too much if at all as condensation upon
> removal of a camera etc, would perhaps negate any benefits
>
> http://www.xdry.com/dry-cabinet/desiccator-xd3-1104-01.asp
> http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/camera-humidity-cabinet.html
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>

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