Halvard - sorry for the slow response, the truth is I don't know how secure Google is or for that matter Freelists. It would be safe to make the assumption that neither are completely safe. I would be inclined to say that Google is a far bigger haystack to search for a needle in. I would think, and I'll have to check up more thoroughly on this, but as long as we stick to the third person when discussing questionable things (I heard a story about someone who...) then we will not be infringing the law (in the UK and US at least). If anyone has more imformation regarding this topic, or would like to comment about the law in their country regarding the discussion of practices which may be frowned upon by the state, then please forward your opinion to the group. Joan - thankyou for the info, that'll go straight on the list :-) Having not gone through the subscription process myself I did not realise it was difficult. This may explain why only two of the original group joined! I'll set up the gmail list today, and forward an invite to everybody concerned. Regarding inviting other people to the group - the method which I have found works well on other groups which want to stay quite private, is for a list member to write a small introduction to a potential new member and to post it to the group. After a short time period (i.e. a week), in which others can express their approval of the person and any concerns they may have, the person will be invited. The idea is not to be dictatorial and exclusive but to keep the group manageable. As far as I'm concerned, the word of a group member that another person should be allowed to join the group is enough for me. However, each group member should have the ability to veto a new recruit IF they have a very good reason, i.e. 'That person ripped me off... is not who they claim to be...' or similar.'. I should think it very unlikely that this would happen though. Regarding the gmail list - If anybody else would like to express their opinion on the topic of moving the list to Google, please do so soon. I will make the new list today but keep this one running until further notice. I'll also transfer what little discussion we have had over. The the consensus of opinion so far is to move over.