[pskmail] kc9sgv issue

  • From: Robert Krasowski <rkrasowski@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:02:21 -0800 (PST)

Thanks Bernard for feedback, I saw you connecting many ties with this problem. 
I was thinking that you maybe using older client that had this problem, but 
apparently that is not the case. 
The situation with SQ2OAZ yesterday was different, for some reason their 
station did not heard anything, and as per today I do not know what was the 
problem, suspects: RIT, ATT on, volume-in  low in computer, poor band 
conditions ( I use 1kW for SSB but only 60 watts for PSKmail). They were able 
to fixed this yestarday and after I will have a chance to talk to them later 
today will know what was the problem.
On my server I saw them requesting connect, server responded correctly, but 
no ACK from client, so server was sending responses over and over again untill 
all modes were exhausted. That caused disconnect, but server had to go via 
routine. 
 
Please try to connect to my server again, I will make a copy of the log so I 
can post it here and we can find a solution. My impression was that problem 
your are exeriencing was fixed with new version of server (first patch to 1.4 
and now to 1.5)
 
Best regards and thanks 
Robert 
KB2PNM 
 
PS. My server is off daily between 22:30- 23:00 whan I am talkong on SSB to my 
friends sailors.

--- On Tue, 1/10/12, Bernard Dekok <kc9sgv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Bernard Dekok <kc9sgv@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [pskmail] Re: Good Conditions
To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2012, 9:01 AM


Hi Robert,


What you describe on the PSKMail connection, is what I have expierenced many 
times with your server and also with the AB9FT server.


I have on many occasions seen a gradual deterioration of the link.
It goes asymmetric with the server still in a faster mode, and my client stuck 
in one of the lower speed modes, to the point that everything just freezes up 
there.
Seems like this is part of the problem with PSKMail.
There seems to be no automatic disconnect signal like with Winmor, when 
conditions deteriorate to the point of oblivion. (I think Winmor sends a double 
disconnect signal and an  ID.)
So the connection on PSKMail just deteriorates, then hangs there in silence, 
waiting for who knows what.
I think this could also be partly due to the peculiarity of the 30 M band.
It behave much differently from say the 20M and 40M bands,
I can say this from observation and experience as an HF band Ham for the past 
30 years.
The 30 band will presently suddenly cut off completely, then come on again 30 
minutes later.
In the US at least, the 20M and 40 M bands are very predictable most of the 
time, with good propagation during all of the morning, and then again later in 
the afternoon and 
evening.


Just my observation with some good time on playing with PSKMail 1.5 and the 
KB2PNM 
and AB9FT servers from Chicago. (I have not had any response from the other 
servers after multiple pinging during the past few days.)


73,
Bernard
KC9SGV / ZS4BDK
Chicago





On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Robert Krasowski <rkrasowski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





We had some problems yesterday with PSKmail, first we talk on SSB for 45 min, 
conditions were great. But later when we switch into PSKmail I was able to hear 
them great, but for some reason Client didi not responded into server response. 
I could't do anything about it since they did not hear me. But during the night 
they were able to exchange some emails so must recognized and fix the problem. 
Will know today what was the issue. 
Darrel, they are in the middle of Atlantic, not in Poland , so not that far but 
still quite good.
Best regards toi all 
Robert 
KB2PNM 

--- On Mon, 1/9/12, John Douyere <vk2eta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: John Douyere <vk2eta@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [pskmail] Re: Good Conditions
To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, January 9, 2012, 10:34 PM




Hi Darrel,

Yes, nice log.

I noticed the failed attempts at connections to Robert's server (KB2PNM).

Robert,

It looks like the client does not hear the server's connect
acknowledgement (since the connect is received and acted upon AND the
client's status reply required to confirm the connection is much more
likely to success than a long connect frame).

I would recommend SQ2OAZ tries to connect with something like THOR22
or MFSK16, and let the server adjust the speed up if possible.

But of course how to let him know if he does not connect to his email
(APRS messages maybe?).

Regards,

John


On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:13 PM,  <ve7cus@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I had an interesting capture on my station on the west coast of N.A. this 
> afternoon.
>
> Darrel, VE7CUS
>
> 16:01:21 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:6 (93u8'c  Y 83C1<EOT>
> 16:02:54 <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> 16:02:54 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> 16:03:17 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> 16:03:19 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> 16:07:01 <SOH>1"kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 53750<SOH>
> 16:07:04 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> 16:16:14 <SOH>1$kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 5A0AE<SOH>
> 16:16:15 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7$s   1677<EOT>
> 16:17:24 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1$kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 5A0AE<SOH>
> 16:17:25 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7$s   1677<EOT>
> 16:18:29 <SOH>00uAB9FT:71 73 4E93<EOT>
> From AB9FT: 73%
> 16:19:08 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> =4904.13N/12305.39WMXASTIR-Linux
> 16:20:10 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> 16:23:19 <SOH>1%kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 559FA<SOH>
> 16:23:20 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7%s   D64A<EOT>
> 16:23:39 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1%kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 559FA<SOH>
> 16:23:40 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7%s   D64A<EOT>
> 16:26:07 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:6 I7@=9Xm4'Y D0E8<EOT>
> 16:32:12 <SOH>10cSQ2OAZ:1024 KB2PNM:24 885b4321AA0F<EOT>
> 16:33:06 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> 16:33:06 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> 16:33:31 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> 16:33:32 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> 16:33:51 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> 16:33:52 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> 16:38:01 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> 16:38:08 <SOH>00uAB9FT:71 77 8E91<EOT>
> From AB9FT: 77%
> 16:38:33 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> 16:39:22 <SOH>10cSQ2OAZ:1024 KB2PNM:24 885b4321AA0F<EOT>
> 16:40:47 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> 16:41:33 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1"kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 53750<SOH>
> 16:41:33 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> 16:42:18 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1"kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 53750<SOH>
> 16:42:19 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> 16:46:01 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:6 I7>69Z4.(Y 35AA<EOT>
>
>


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