I am doing a server install on a new Ubuntu 7.10 system I just loaded up this morning. I loaded Ubuntu , and then did all the 190 updates that were out there for 7.10. I am following the installaion instructions for Ubuntu 7.04 that are on the wiki page. I am down to step 10 - "Time to get Net::SSLeay" As per the instructions, it apperars that cpan fails to isntall, so I am doing the manual steps. it appears that SSLeay has a newer version, because there is now a sub- directory Net_SSLeay-1.32 rather than Net_SSLeay.pm-1.30 When I go to that new directory and enter ./Makefile.PL I get a "Permission denied" error. I tried sudo ./Makefile.PL and got the same error. What am I doing wrong or missing? As I recall, when I did a similar install a week or so ago, I finally skipped that step, and went to step 11 and finished the install and the server ran successfully. -- 73 - Bill - N8ET Kanga US www.kangaus.com 419-423-4604 (Kanga) 419-423-5643 (home)