This caused me no end of grief as well, to the point where I hacked the server code to get rid of it. As I only connect to my server this didn't matter. Whilst I was in there, I got rid of or corrected a few other irritants. I understand that I'm out of step with the wider community but I have a combination that works for me; consistently. If the client was written in something other than java, I'd have a go at that too. Ian VK1IAN