[pskmail] Re: Good Conditions

  • From: Bernard Dekok <kc9sgv@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:01:18 -0600

Hi Robert,

What you describe on the PSKMail connection, is what I have expierenced
many times with your server and also with the AB9FT server.

I have on many occasions seen a gradual deterioration of the link.
It goes asymmetric with the server still in a faster mode, and my client
stuck in one of the lower speed modes, to the point that everything just
freezes up there.
Seems like this is part of the problem with PSKMail.
There seems to be no automatic disconnect signal like with Winmor, when
conditions deteriorate to the point of oblivion. (I think Winmor sends a
double disconnect signal and an  ID.)
So the connection on PSKMail just deteriorates, then hangs there in
silence, waiting for who knows what.
I think this could also be partly due to the peculiarity of the 30 M band.
It behave much differently from say the 20M and 40M bands,
I can say this from observation and experience as an HF band Ham for the
past 30 years.
The 30 band will presently suddenly cut off completely, then come on again
30 minutes later.
In the US at least, the 20M and 40 M bands are very predictable most of the
time, with good propagation during all of the morning, and then again later
in the afternoon and
evening.

Just my observation with some good time on playing with PSKMail 1.5 and the
KB2PNM
and AB9FT servers from Chicago. (I have not had any response from the other
servers after multiple pinging during the past few days.)

73,
Bernard
KC9SGV / ZS4BDK
Chicago



On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Robert Krasowski <rkrasowski@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> We had some problems yesterday with PSKmail, first we talk on SSB for 45
> min, conditions were great. But later when we switch into PSKmail I was
> able to hear them great, but for some reason Client didi not responded into
> server response. I could't do anything about it since they did not hear me.
> But during the night they were able to exchange some emails so must
> recognized and fix the problem. Will know today what was the issue.
> Darrel, they are in the middle of Atlantic, not in Poland , so not that
> far but still quite good.
> Best regards toi all
> Robert
> KB2PNM
>
> --- On *Mon, 1/9/12, John Douyere <vk2eta@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: John Douyere <vk2eta@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pskmail] Re: Good Conditions
> To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, January 9, 2012, 10:34 PM
>
>
> Hi Darrel,
>
> Yes, nice log.
>
> I noticed the failed attempts at connections to Robert's server (KB2PNM).
>
> Robert,
>
> It looks like the client does not hear the server's connect
> acknowledgement (since the connect is received and acted upon AND the
> client's status reply required to confirm the connection is much more
> likely to success than a long connect frame).
>
> I would recommend SQ2OAZ tries to connect with something like THOR22
> or MFSK16, and let the server adjust the speed up if possible.
>
> But of course how to let him know if he does not connect to his email
> (APRS messages maybe?).
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:13 PM,  
> <ve7cus@xxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=ve7cus@xxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
> > I had an interesting capture on my station on the west coast of N.A.
> this afternoon.
> >
> > Darrel, VE7CUS
> >
> > 16:01:21 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:6 (93u8'c  Y 83C1<EOT>
> > 16:02:54 <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> > 16:02:54 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> > 16:03:17 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> > 16:03:19 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> > 16:07:01 <SOH>1"kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 53750<SOH>
> > 16:07:04 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> > 16:16:14 <SOH>1$kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 5A0AE<SOH>
> > 16:16:15 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7$s   1677<EOT>
> > 16:17:24 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1$kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 5A0AE<SOH>
> > 16:17:25 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7$s   1677<EOT>
> > 16:18:29 <SOH>00uAB9FT:71 73 4E93<EOT>
> > From AB9FT: 73%
> > 16:19:08 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> > =4904.13N/12305.39WMXASTIR-Linux
> > 16:20:10 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> > 16:23:19 <SOH>1%kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 559FA<SOH>
> > 16:23:20 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7%s   D64A<EOT>
> > 16:23:39 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1%kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 559FA<SOH>
> > 16:23:40 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7%s   D64A<EOT>
> > 16:26:07 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:6 I7@=9Xm4'Y D0E8<EOT>
> > 16:32:12 <SOH>10cSQ2OAZ:1024 KB2PNM:24 885b4321AA0F<EOT>
> > 16:33:06 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> > 16:33:06 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> > 16:33:31 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> > 16:33:32 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> > 16:33:51 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1!kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 57CAF<SOH>
> > 16:33:52 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7!s   16BB<EOT>
> > 16:38:01 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> > 16:38:08 <SOH>00uAB9FT:71 77 8E91<EOT>
> > From AB9FT: 77%
> > 16:38:33 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:7 B685<EOT>
> > 16:39:22 <SOH>10cSQ2OAZ:1024 KB2PNM:24 885b4321AA0F<EOT>
> > 16:40:47 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> > 16:41:33 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1"kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 53750<SOH>
> > 16:41:33 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> > 16:42:18 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>1"kKB2PNM:24 SQ2OAZ:1024 53750<SOH>
> > 16:42:19 SQ2OAZ<>KB2PNM: <SOH>7"s   16FF<EOT>
> > 16:46:01 <SOH>00uSQ2OAZ:6 I7>69Z4.(Y 35AA<EOT>
> >
> >
>
>

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