Rud: FEC is best used with interleave, and this functions best against static crashes and deep fades we all hear on HF, in effect "bending time" (time diversity) I've literally had the band totally drop out (briefly) during a MT63 QSO and it just happily continues printing the text. I've also seen selective fading sweep right through a MT63 QSO in progress, and again, hardly misses a beat. Actually a amazing thing to see... a "hole" moves right through the waterfall. Heavy FEC/interleave is not well suited for "chat modes" however, due to the time delay. I think what is going on here is comparing apples and oranges. What is good for the DX/Ham-CB/Chat types may not be best for those wanting to automatically move data. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MT63 On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:08:01 -0600, Rud Merriam wrote: >Hi Rein, > >My apologies if you were bothered by my use of the term naïve. >Taking your statement on your web site at face value it is >misleading. I have seen similar statements by other hams. Practice >with space probes, digital TV, etc, also show the value of using >FEC. >