Rein/Per,I find it amusing (amazing??) that "we" rejoice when a single application "only" uses 50% CPU. This is normally a trigger for me to start looking for a problem. I also think it sad that "we" have to inflict java on poor widnows users; they don't get to feel how a well written OS/application is supposed to run. When you don't know any different, paying for software and woeful performance is the "norm". Without stating the obvious, there are a number of successful (ham radio) applications that support multiple OS' without resorting to java.
For what it's worth, I only use jpskmail client to send and receive emails.After ferretting through the server code (perl) before our last trip fixing bugs, I discovered a few things about how pskmail works, so I read, edit and create emails using a simple text editor. One day I hope to be able to send and receive emails from the command line (once I get my head around how ARQ works), thus doing away with jpskmail altogether. Hopefully I'll be able to find the time to achieve this lofty goal before our next trip, thus avoiding having to kill (many times) a certain unresponsive application.
Ian On 05/11/12 19:54, PÃr Crusefalk wrote:
I feel I need to defend java somewhat here. Just as Rein pointed out pskmail would have stayed a happy linux only project using perl and gtk if it wasn't for java. While I don't think that would have been a negative thing at all there was some serious pressure to make it work on window$. Now, java has changed the industry and only yesterday I noticed a certain linux and java based phone OS has a 75% market share: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/idc-android-75-pct-smartphones-3q-17629179#.UJd8SoYpf5E MS tried their standard embrace-extend-extinguish with java but had to back off and create their own (which is .Net). Both java and .Net use a runtime and c# is almost a complete java clone, have a look here for a comparison: http://www.harding.edu/fmccown/java_csharp_comparison.html And, for a developer here we can write once and run everywhere so that really saves developer effort. But, of course we need to test more and also make the installer perfect and show a splash screen with more info and... What I mean is there is nothing wrong with java, it's just that we need more hands involved in the development and testing. 73 de Per, sm0rwo Rein Couperus skrev 2012-11-03 17:59:@IAn, 'Why people still persist with Windows is beyond me'. Unfortunately we had to use java to enable people to use window$. @Drew, windows wants to use javaw.exe... See FAQ Windows7 pretends it cannot find javaw.exe <http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/FAQ+Windows7+pretends+it+cannot+find+javaw.exe> Rein PA0R Why people persist with java is beyond me :-( Try an older version of the client that uses fldigi. After much mucking around, I have found a combination that works for me. Ian On Sat, Nov 3rd, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Rein Couperus <rein@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Drew,I am sitting in front of a WIN7 machine now (after waiting for it > to start for 8 minutes)...* I go to C:\Program > files(x86)\jPSKmail* I right-click jpskmail-2.0.19* I click 'Open > with'* I click JRE.... the program starts after waiting a few minutes > (this is WINDOWS), you will see activity at the disk drive...* set the > input and output audio mixers on the DSP tab:In: Primary Sound captureOut: > Primary Sound driverSet the audio levels with the windows audio > app....Works here....73,Rein Pa0R > > Hey guys,I've been on this list for a while, assuming at some > point I'd get some free time and would want to start playing with > pskmail.Well, that time has arrived, and as a twenty-year IT veteran I > assumed installing and running pskmail would be relatively easy.I was > wrong. I cannot get pskmail to start on Windows 7, and I haven't the > foggiest where to find debug messages. I installed the latest JRE and > double-click the .jar file I downloaded from the website… the CPU > on the computer spikes to 80% for a couple of seconds and then goes back > to zero, and that's the only thing that happens.I have searched the > pskmail.org website for install instructions, but even the 'Quick > Start Guide' begins with the words "What to do after pskmail has > started?".Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong, or how to make some kind > of debug output appear? > Cheers,- Drew.--Drew Smith (mux) <drew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, VA7DSX / > VE0TFEncrypted e-mail preferred, public key at > http://riotnrrd.com/pubkey.gpg > > > > > > >-- Mobile: +46703784299