[pskmail] Re: ARRL to offer $10,00 prize for HF modem
- From: Rein Couperus <rein@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:43:32 +0100
I get your point Karel, but let's not beat a dead horse, and go back to work;
enough to to.
By the way, I had offered to work together with an organisation that was into
communication to sailing vessels, and who were interested to make an embedded
version of pskmail that did not need a PC to work.
They chose to work together with a German company called SCS. Maybe they can
help Steef.
Subject closed...
Rein EA/PA0R/P
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Gesendet: 24.01.07 19:23:21
> An: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC: Paco Olaya <pacooftelsat@xxxxxxxxx>, Steef Fassotte <s.fassotte@xxxxxxxxx>
> Betreff: [pskmail] Re: ARRL to offer $10,00 prize for HF modem
>
> Well I understand your point Rein, I agree, allthough I dont go as far
> and that fast as you do.
> As for now we have a system FTP like running with the RFSM2400 software.
> The software is made realy nicely. It is stable, under wine and under XP.
> If there would be something like it in the open source I would go for
> it imediately.
> The problem with the open source is that it is abandoned by the
> software guys, also the amateurs. Nowadays all is oriented ath the
> easy available, windows. Nearly nobody is interested in open source
> writing and implementations. Its a pitty, but because of this real
> world situation we walk on both the open source and closed source like
> windows, allthough I hate to be dependent on the big brother, Bill
> Gates. I would abandon imediately windows if there would be an
> alternative for all applications we need. Even worse. Overhere in the
> third world all is Windows, bought or robbed. No discussing is raised,
> never. No people realy working on alternatives. Imagen the third world
> that could take advantage of open source is completly drowend by
> windows.
> The Q15X25 which is also a good candidate, is abandoned in open
> source, nobody putting any interest in it. The people that made the
> software dont even take the time to write and inform you. I am glad
> Rein and others that this PSK forum exists, were we can exchange
> experience an help each other to get things going.
> One element of critic points out my brother Steef concerning the
> PSKmail. He says it should be written from the scatch to be an
> embedded system, that may use small motherboards, without any
> harddisk, start from a stick, or memory. Communicate to the outside
> world using the ehternet or wireless.
> This would make it a powerefull wireless router. Right now it is
> oriented to the amateurs, with a screen interface. Maybe I am not an
> expert enough to give opinions that easy.
> greetings
> Karel
> HC1AKP
> PE2KFA
>
>
>
>
> 2007/1/24, Rein Couperus <rein@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > I think we should stop talking to people who are not prepared to put their
> > software into the public domain.
> > Put a lot of TIME in? (...)
> >
> > Let them go somewhere else (M$?) to sell it to the highest bidder...
> > These people have different goals, they have to earn money (nothing wrong
> > with wanting to get rich, but let's not waste OUR precious time on it).
> >
> > NOBODY is going to get rich selling software to hams. It is a WASTE OF TIME.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Rein EA/PA0R/P
> >
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Gesendet: 24.01.07 17:16:09
> > > An: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Betreff: [pskmail] Re: ARRL to offer $10,00 prize for HF modem
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hello Per, Walt,
> > > We are testing and using RFSM a milst 188-110a software modem, with
> > > very good results. The modem is very persistant and we would like te
> > > get is integrated in the PSKmail series.
> > > I don`t know exactly what modem you are talking about, I should read
> > > the whole mail series again I think.
> > > If we could get a modem that would stay within 500Hz, doing the
> > > 2400-4800bd you mention we at least would have what we need.
> > > Yes it should be open source. I did not find anything like it yet,
> > > allthough Dmitry of the IDEE group the authors of the RFSM are very
> > > cooperative, they do not want the code to be free and open. They would
> > > ga as far as releasing a binary blop.
> > > My brother Steef is not very fond on binaries. He says the could
> > > should be free and open to develope and adapt to the wishes. I think
> > > Dmitry has a point, because he did a lot of work and does not want
> > > somebody to commercialize the software.
> > > Well pleae let me know, because I will not let lose until I get what we
> > > need.
> > > The high speed shortwave modem is one of the items that are on the
> > > agenda and one of the utilities we need for emergency communications
> > > to be effective.
> > > greetings to you and all
> > > Karel
> > > HC1AKP / PE2KFA
> > > http://www.oftelsat.com
> > > You may donwload the RFSM2400 software from our site
> > >
> > > 2007/1/24, Per Crusefalk <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I agree with your opinion, this will be exciting to watch and could
> > > > create
> > > > something really good. Commercial hf modems run at speeds up to 9600
> > > > bps,
> > > > the Harris RF-5710A for example, and I have used them during terrible
> > > > condx with excellent results. More narrow band modes, such as STANAG
> > > > 4529
> > > > (1240 Hz), are also very interesting. My humble demands for a mode is
> > > > one
> > > > that can stay within a 500 Hz filter, is very fast (2400-4800 bps) and
> > > > also very robust (and open source of course). I will watch this unfold
> > > > with great interest.
> > > >
> > > > 73 de Per, sm0rwo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > All,
> > > > >
> > > > > The subject and E-Mail from N5OK says it all.
> > > > >
> > > > > No design goals have been set for the mode/modem; but, look for them
> > > > > in
> > > > > the next
> > > > > few months. The actual ARRL Board action will be published when the
> > > > > Board
> > > > > Meeting Minutes from last weekend's ARRL Board Meeting are published
> > > > > in
> > > > > the next
> > > > > few days.
> > > > >
> > > > > Put down all you design goals down on paper and be prepared to forward
> > > > > them to
> > > > > the ARRL POC when the individual(s) is(are) announced. DON'T start
> > > > > yet as
> > > > > any
> > > > > messages before the official POC(s) and design goals are published
> > > > > most
> > > > > likely
> > > > > will not reach the individual(s) who will need your input.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't "flame" or "mail bomb" the ARRL or any of its officers,
> > > > > staff
> > > > > or
> > > > > directors since no details are known.
> > > > >
> > > > > My personal opinion is that this is going to push someone or some
> > > > > group to
> > > > > come
> > > > > up with a communications ability that will put amateur radio back as a
> > > > > leader in
> > > > > communications technology.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wouldn't be surprised to see more amateur radio equipment
> > > > > manufacturers
> > > > > start
> > > > > producing SDR type radios.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I had seen this E-Mail last night, I would not have been able to
> > > > > sleep
> > > > > last
> > > > > night...and today I would have been unable to consentrate at work. So
> > > > > tonight I
> > > > > will NOT sleep and tomorrow I will be useless at work.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73 and CUL,
> > > > >
> > > > > Walt/K5YFW
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [pskmail] Re: BBS for emergency communications]
> > > > > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:59:13 -0600 (CST)
> > > > > From: Coy Day <n5ok@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Reply-To: n5ok@xxxxxxxx
> > > > > To: Walt DuBose <dubose@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > References: <45B58236.3040704@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > >
> > > > > Walt,
> > > > >
> > > > > You will be pleased with the results of the board meeting. The ARRL
> > > > > will
> > > > > be offering a $10,000 prize for the development of a high speed HF
> > > > > modem.
> > > > > You can read about it in the minutes when they are published.
> > > > >
> > > > > Coy, N5OK
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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