[pskmail] Re: ARRL to offer $10,00 prize for HF modem
- From: "karel Fassotte" <karel.fassotte@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:12:57 -0500
Well I understand your point Rein, I agree, allthough I dont go as far
and that fast as you do.
As for now we have a system FTP like running with the RFSM2400 software.
The software is made realy nicely. It is stable, under wine and under XP.
If there would be something like it in the open source I would go for
it imediately.
The problem with the open source is that it is abandoned by the
software guys, also the amateurs. Nowadays all is oriented ath the
easy available, windows. Nearly nobody is interested in open source
writing and implementations. Its a pitty, but because of this real
world situation we walk on both the open source and closed source like
windows, allthough I hate to be dependent on the big brother, Bill
Gates. I would abandon imediately windows if there would be an
alternative for all applications we need. Even worse. Overhere in the
third world all is Windows, bought or robbed. No discussing is raised,
never. No people realy working on alternatives. Imagen the third world
that could take advantage of open source is completly drowend by
windows.
The Q15X25 which is also a good candidate, is abandoned in open
source, nobody putting any interest in it. The people that made the
software dont even take the time to write and inform you. I am glad
Rein and others that this PSK forum exists, were we can exchange
experience an help each other to get things going.
One element of critic points out my brother Steef concerning the
PSKmail. He says it should be written from the scatch to be an
embedded system, that may use small motherboards, without any
harddisk, start from a stick, or memory. Communicate to the outside
world using the ehternet or wireless.
This would make it a powerefull wireless router. Right now it is
oriented to the amateurs, with a screen interface. Maybe I am not an
expert enough to give opinions that easy.
greetings
Karel
HC1AKP
PE2KFA
2007/1/24, Rein Couperus <rein@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
I think we should stop talking to people who are not prepared to put their
software into the public domain.
Put a lot of TIME in? (...)
Let them go somewhere else (M$?) to sell it to the highest bidder...
These people have different goals, they have to earn money (nothing wrong with
wanting to get rich, but let's not waste OUR precious time on it).
NOBODY is going to get rich selling software to hams. It is a WASTE OF TIME.
73,
Rein EA/PA0R/P
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> Von: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Gesendet: 24.01.07 17:16:09
> An: pskmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: [pskmail] Re: ARRL to offer $10,00 prize for HF modem
>
> Hello Per, Walt,
> We are testing and using RFSM a milst 188-110a software modem, with
> very good results. The modem is very persistant and we would like te
> get is integrated in the PSKmail series.
> I don`t know exactly what modem you are talking about, I should read
> the whole mail series again I think.
> If we could get a modem that would stay within 500Hz, doing the
> 2400-4800bd you mention we at least would have what we need.
> Yes it should be open source. I did not find anything like it yet,
> allthough Dmitry of the IDEE group the authors of the RFSM are very
> cooperative, they do not want the code to be free and open. They would
> ga as far as releasing a binary blop.
> My brother Steef is not very fond on binaries. He says the could
> should be free and open to develope and adapt to the wishes. I think
> Dmitry has a point, because he did a lot of work and does not want
> somebody to commercialize the software.
> Well pleae let me know, because I will not let lose until I get what we need.
> The high speed shortwave modem is one of the items that are on the
> agenda and one of the utilities we need for emergency communications
> to be effective.
> greetings to you and all
> Karel
> HC1AKP / PE2KFA
> http://www.oftelsat.com
> You may donwload the RFSM2400 software from our site
>
> 2007/1/24, Per Crusefalk <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I agree with your opinion, this will be exciting to watch and could create
> > something really good. Commercial hf modems run at speeds up to 9600 bps,
> > the Harris RF-5710A for example, and I have used them during terrible
> > condx with excellent results. More narrow band modes, such as STANAG 4529
> > (1240 Hz), are also very interesting. My humble demands for a mode is one
> > that can stay within a 500 Hz filter, is very fast (2400-4800 bps) and
> > also very robust (and open source of course). I will watch this unfold
> > with great interest.
> >
> > 73 de Per, sm0rwo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > The subject and E-Mail from N5OK says it all.
> > >
> > > No design goals have been set for the mode/modem; but, look for them in
> > > the next
> > > few months. The actual ARRL Board action will be published when the Board
> > > Meeting Minutes from last weekend's ARRL Board Meeting are published in
> > > the next
> > > few days.
> > >
> > > Put down all you design goals down on paper and be prepared to forward
> > > them to
> > > the ARRL POC when the individual(s) is(are) announced. DON'T start yet as
> > > any
> > > messages before the official POC(s) and design goals are published most
> > > likely
> > > will not reach the individual(s) who will need your input.
> > >
> > > Please don't "flame" or "mail bomb" the ARRL or any of its officers, staff
> > > or
> > > directors since no details are known.
> > >
> > > My personal opinion is that this is going to push someone or some group to
> > > come
> > > up with a communications ability that will put amateur radio back as a
> > > leader in
> > > communications technology.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be surprised to see more amateur radio equipment manufacturers
> > > start
> > > producing SDR type radios.
> > >
> > > If I had seen this E-Mail last night, I would not have been able to sleep
> > > last
> > > night...and today I would have been unable to consentrate at work. So
> > > tonight I
> > > will NOT sleep and tomorrow I will be useless at work.
> > >
> > > 73 and CUL,
> > >
> > > Walt/K5YFW
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [Fwd: [pskmail] Re: BBS for emergency communications]
> > > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:59:13 -0600 (CST)
> > > From: Coy Day <n5ok@xxxxxxxx>
> > > Reply-To: n5ok@xxxxxxxx
> > > To: Walt DuBose <dubose@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > References: <45B58236.3040704@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > Walt,
> > >
> > > You will be pleased with the results of the board meeting. The ARRL will
> > > be offering a $10,000 prize for the development of a high speed HF modem.
> > > You can read about it in the minutes when they are published.
> > >
> > > Coy, N5OK
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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