Yeah I know exactly what you mean, the whole high quality indie game is just what I was hoping it would be like. I love it when they take the old school NES themes and revamp/incorporate elements to make 1 game. Those are a blast to play. Or a new game with influence from previous art styles. There is a game called Castle Crashers Sid plays which is the coolest game I've seen in a while for that nature of game. And Braid was way cool too, though I don't know too much about the context/influence of those games. But they remind me of the fun I had when I was a kid. =) --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [project1dev] Re: uh oh nintendo To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 12:49 PM oh and btw since making games costs so much money, and everyone is afraid to take risks, i think it really puts people like us at an advantage. We can make whatever game we want and if it fails we have lost nothing. This "lack of creativity" period may just be a cycle games are in which makes it the perfect time to put out a high quality indie game, it seems like the best time to possibly become a huge hit ya know? (: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: yeah totally, not many people are willing to risk being very inovative because so much money goes into games now days the cost of failure is huge i think all the publishers / investors just see a game like GTA or nintendogs or guitar hero do well and say "make something like that so we get a peice of that action" and bam we have a bunch of clones. The last company i was at i kinda felt like they werent willing to be very innovative, but that kinda seemed like it was changing by the time i left. this company here is charting their own course in unfamiliar waters which is nice to see (: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:41 PM, katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yeah I haven't been able to really get into games since the Super NES. Its just not the same. XBox is okay sometimes, but games don't have the ingenuity and depth of some the old schoolers. Its all about the next gen stuff, which seems to be regurgitations of previous next gen stuff. --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [project1dev] Re: uh oh nintendo To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 11:52 AM I think Super Nintendo was one of the greatest gaming platforms. I think the games that came out during that time were the most fun to play. Playstation and Playstation2 are a close second. With that said I think the Super NES versions of all the classic nintendo games are the best. I think A link to the past is the best Zelda. Super Metroid is the best Metroid. Super Mario World (which is tied with Mario 3) are the best Mario games. Super NES even produced the best rpgs randing from Crono Trigger to the Final Fantasys On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:17 AM, katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: If you have played Sly Cooper, its exactly the same, besides the theme. Game play and all is JUST like sly cooper. WEIRD, my boyfriend and friend Jay aren't too impressed with it. =( --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Matthew Freeland <mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Matthew Freeland <mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [project1dev] Re: uh oh nintendo To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 5:56 PM I don't have any of the next gen consoles, but I'm thinking about getting a ps3 just to play infamous, it looks stellar. So, I'm not exactly an expert on the next gen wave in the slightest. I know would beat the crap out of any of them a dark alley though. On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: those are some damn good titles, i'd argue that at least partially to blame is poor execution? :P but you might be right... those IPs might be getting a lil aged or somethin nintendo's online features suck too basically no communication allowed unless you have manually entered the other persons 16 digit code as your friend why even have multiplayer? you might as well be playing against bots :P On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, <mattthefiend@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Nintendo has been screwed since they decided metroid zelda and mario were the only titles they would ever need. :P Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: Alan Wolfe Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 17:29:16 -0700 To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [project1dev] uh oh nintendo http://www.pcworld.com/article/165891/e3_2009_microsofts_nocontroller_natal_steals_the_show.html nintendo is either gonna have to put some power into their next console and/or come up with something even better if they want to stay alive in the next generation I think. It kinda isn't lookin good for them with this comin out IMO :P