i was just reading an article about the top 10 most dick things video games have done to people #10 was one of the kings quest games, apparently theres a part where for a couple seconds a cat chases a rat off screen. If you dont throw something at the cat right then, the game becomes unwinable but you dont find that out for a few more hours of gameplay lol #4 or so was ghost and goblins how when you "beat it" instead of a "you win" screen you just have to play it over again but it's harder the second time #1 was battletoads, the part where you ride the hover board and dodge the walls. I remember you playin that lol There's also a "boy and his blob" game comin out for wii, it looks kinda interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdA-c-ZXWkk BTW, i'm still working on our state based animation system. Hope to have that done before too long (: