[project1dev] Re: art tasks
- From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:45:39 -0700
Heya Katie,
No problem at all, i converted em real quick.
Here's some more detailed info cause i never really explained any of this
stuff to anybody (my bad)
The engine supports jpg, png, gif (not animated tho), tga, probly some
others.
basically it supports all the file formats you dont need a special program
to view (which is why psd doesnt work).
about image size, all that is needed is that the dimensions have to be a
power of 2 (but the images dont have to be square) so like, these are all
valid dimension sizes:
1
2
4
8
16
32
64
128
256
512
1024
...
I'm not sure if there is a "too small" number... i'd probly keep it at 8 or
higher though just to be safe....
and for max size i'd be reluctant to go over 1024x1024 too often. The
larger the image, the more memory is used.
For instance 1024x1024 uses up 4 megabytes of video memory (ie 1024 pixels *
1024 pixels * 32 bit color (4 byte color) = 4MB).
A little bit later we'll have to work out our memory budgets but for now we
dont need to worry about it.
We'll do something like have the game spit out how much memory is used for
each thing (textures, sounds, music, etc) and we'll have a cap like lets say
we have to stay under 50MB of texture memory and under 25MB for sound
effects etc.
But for now we can ignore it, I have no clue what our budgets will be yet,
and even if we port to 360, the 360 has a ton of memory in it so just like
the PC there shouldnt be a huge problem.
When you start developing on the Wii, or the DS, and even the PS3 those
systems have a lot less memory and budgets become a bigger concern.
Anyways... !!
Your mine cart looks great Katie (:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:34 PM, katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> Sorry about the trouble with the psd files. I wasn't sure what format you
> needed. I will make sure to do .jpgs next time. =)
>
> I saw the part about the power of 2's, and I ran the numbers. But I didn't
> get that it needed to be 512x512. I just thought it had to be even
> increments of 128. Sorry about that. I will figure 512 next time to make it
> easier. I was kinda guessing cause I wasn't exactly sure what you meant.
>
> Thanks for your patience! I am excited, thanks for putting in my model. I
> didn't want to step on anybody's toes, so I thought I'd post the model to
> the message board and see what you guys wanted to do with it.
>
> Right On Guys, =) Happy Game Time!
>
> Katie
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 5/13/09, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [project1dev] Re: art tasks
> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 8:01 PM
>
>
> hey the textures are in psd form not sure if the game supports those? if
> it does thatd be cool :)
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Alan Wolfe
> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
>
>> You rule Katie!
>>
>> Hey feel free to check stuff into SVN btw
>>
>> That goes same for everyone (and if anyone needs a tutorial or fresher
>> uper on how to use SVN let me know)
>>
>> I know i was makin a stink about organization not too long ago but so long
>> as it doesnt become a disaster area we should be good to go :P
>>
>> Anyhow, i'll toss your railcar into the cavemap so you can see it in game
>> if you want to
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:14 PM, katie cook
>> <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> Here is the Rail Car w/the textures set as specified below. I have
>>> attached.
>>>
>>> =) Hope you like.
>>>
>>> Katie
>>>
>>> --- On *Wed, 5/13/09, Alan Wolfe
>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Alan Wolfe
>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: art tasks
>>> To:
>>> project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 12:40 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah np! (:
>>>
>>> Also of note for everyone (I just told eric this the other day, sorry for
>>> not mentioning it earlier)
>>>
>>> Texture sizes have to be in dimensions that are powers of 2 (ie 256x256,
>>> 1024x1024, 512x128 etc are ok... 640x480, 55x90 are not)
>>>
>>> The reason for that is that older or less high end cards don't support
>>> non power of 2 textures, and the work around to make it work on such cards
>>> uses a lot more video memory (which those types of cards are already low
>>> on).
>>>
>>> So yeah, we just have to make sure all textures have image sizes which
>>> are powers of 2 (but they dont have to be square)
>>> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM, katie cook
>>> <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yikes, I didn't know that. I can send them over later today. =)
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Tue, 5/12/09, Alan Wolfe
>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >* wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Alan Wolfe
>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: art tasks
>>>> To:
>>>> project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:23 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Katie thats a nice lookin mine cart!
>>>>
>>>> You said you had textures for it too?
>>>>
>>>> ms3d files dont embed their textures inside of the file but if you send
>>>> them over i'll toss one of these into the cave map (:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:38 PM, katie cook
>>>> <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc361.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a Rail Car model w/textures. I ran it through Milkshape and it
>>>>> looks like it keeps the textures in tact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here it is attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know what you guys think and if there is more I can help with.
>>>>> Otherwise I was just thinking I'd work on misc models and see where I get.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks =)
>>>>>
>>>>> Katie
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On *Tue, 5/12/09, eric drewes
>>>>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc361.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: eric drewes
>>>>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc361.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: art tasks
>>>>> To:
>>>>> project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc361.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 1:25 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> im hoping it'll work with maya, autodesk products seem to move to
>>>>> milkshape better so my fingers are crossed :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, eric drewes
>>>>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah thats what i did in c4d but it didnt translate correctly to
>>>>>> milkshape
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM, katie cook
>>>>>> <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably have thought of this already, but you could setup
>>>>>>> material properties that have a luminosity/glow effect for the object
>>>>>>> itself. Maya allows you to do this. =)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- On *Tue, 5/12/09, Alan Wolfe
>>>>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >* wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Alan Wolfe
>>>>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: art tasks
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 12:25 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thats funny eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey if you ever want to do shiny gems, a cool effect might be placing
>>>>>>> a gem colored positional light inside of a gem like its giving off a
>>>>>>> secondary glow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it might be too expensive an effect to use everywhere but shrug (:
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:17 PM, eric drewes
>>>>>>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc361.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yeah in the first cart i made, i had jewels that sparkled but had
>>>>>>>> texturing issues, i also like the idea of the cave being filled with
>>>>>>>> gems/diamonds/crystals but filling the carts up with rocks like they
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> just mining the stone haha
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Chris Riccobono <
>>>>>>>> crysalim@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc361.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like the proposed art here, having those diamonds to just place
>>>>>>>>> around would give the cave a great feel of prettiness.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:23 AM, eric drewes
>>>>>>>>> <figarus@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc361.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=figarus@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > ok, theres some art tasks that have to get done this week so im
>>>>>>>>> gonna post a
>>>>>>>>> > list and who has volunteered for what, and what we still need....
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Eric: animated character/miner models, lanterns that hang from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> > walls/support beams, some diamonds and some shovels, some
>>>>>>>>> mushrooms and
>>>>>>>>> > stalagmites for cave decorations.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Chris Sherman: boss model, crystals to stick out of the cave
>>>>>>>>> walls and some
>>>>>>>>> > partially exposted skeletons
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Katie: katie made a pickaxe but i havent had a chance to check it
>>>>>>>>> out yet
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > ok so here's what we need:
>>>>>>>>> > texture help if anyone wants to volunteer for that, prop
>>>>>>>>> placement help if
>>>>>>>>> > anyone wants to start placing some of the props on the map, maybe
>>>>>>>>> some misc.
>>>>>>>>> > prop model additions, etc. if anyone can think of anything else
>>>>>>>>> let me know
>>>>>>>>> > and we'll add it.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > basically i am setting the "soft" deadline for this stuff to be
>>>>>>>>> friday, and
>>>>>>>>> > anything not done me and whoever else can tackle the rest over
>>>>>>>>> the weekend
>>>>>>>>> > so we can clear out the art schedule.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > also fyi, Rorac and I have the basics for combat/leveling/skills
>>>>>>>>> and some
>>>>>>>>> > other systems ready to post for comment/QA/and more additions.
>>>>>>>>> don't worry,
>>>>>>>>> > everything will be tweaked and we still need a ton of ideas, this
>>>>>>>>> is just
>>>>>>>>> > the foundation to make it more clear for people to understand how
>>>>>>>>> skills and
>>>>>>>>> > characters will work in general so we still need major
>>>>>>>>> contributions for the
>>>>>>>>> > ppl who want to chip in on the game design - your time is coming!
>>>>>>>>> :) we
>>>>>>>>> > should have this posted soon, we're just formatting it out and
>>>>>>>>> documenting
>>>>>>>>> > it well (which is time consuming).
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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