[project1dev] Re: an idea, what do you guys think?

  • From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:32:32 -0800

Good point Katie (:

I can certainly start prototyping stuff at very least.

I wanted to make sure i give this game all attention necessary for it to
succeed but the other games i have in mind should be using the same code /
engine as this one so i think a lot of work can be shared across them so i
might.

I just want to make sure all the tech is there for everyone else to be able
to do what they need to hehe

On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thanks for clearing that up Alan,
>
> I just posted a second ago. I'm really sorry, I didn't get what you were
> getting at first.
>
> As far as the other games you want to make...Why are you waiting?
>
> Is it something that you have to be done with this game first in order to
> start?
> I personally have a billion projects going on at any given time. Not
> necessarily 3D, but just life in general stuff too. I think that if you got
> a good idea, run with it when  you can. Don't wait...=) Plus if you start
> formulating what you want to do now, then it can give you a chance to get
> more feedback and time for concocting your evil plan to take over the world.
> =)
>
> Katie
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 11/14/09, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [project1dev] Re: an idea, what do you guys think?
> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:27 AM
>
>
> I might have worded it poorly but my idea was just to unpair the progress
> of functionality with the progress of the art
>
> So for instance, we would make the void area functional and move onto the
> next area instead of waiting for the art to be finished for it (meanwhile
> map builders and scripters and designers wouldn't just be waiting for the
> art to be done)
>
> If you are opposed to the idea that's totally fine... it's just that things
> have been kind of "dead in the water" and im trying to figure out how we can
> progress forward.
>
> Re: the focus on getting it done by a certain time, i was thinking it would
> be nice to set a goal such as "1 year from now" or "2 years from now" even
> but if we'd rather take it slow and focus on quality and say "it'll be done
> when it's done and we'll make a game we are proud of first and foremost"
> that sounds like a good plan.
>
> The only reason i have this internal deadline was because there are a
> couple other games I personally want to make as well and don't want to spend
> forever waiting to make them, but perhaps if the engine gets solid i could
> be using it for those other games too if no new tech was needed for this
> RPG.
>
> ::shrug::
>
> If the idea is a bad one, we certainly don't have to go the route i was
> talking about.
>
> If things are good as they are now, we can certainly leave them how they
> are (:
>
> What you say Katie, are we on a good path now?  Going as we are going do
> you think your personal goals for this project are going to be met ok?
>
> (same for everyone else... feedback welcome!!)
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM, katie cook 
> <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
>
>> BTW,
>>
>> I love building little prop models etc. so if you guys don't want to make
>> them, just tell me and I will do it.
>>
>> =)
>>
>> Katie
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 11/14/09, katie cook 
>> <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> Subject: [project1dev] Re: an idea, what do you guys think?
>> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:13 AM
>>
>>
>> It seems like the focus has become more about just getting the game made
>> verses trying to build a game that we are proud of and having fun making
>> along the way...WTF????
>>
>> Didn't know we were so concerned getting it cranked out by a certain
>> time...
>>
>> Anyway, just my thoughts.
>>
>> I had the impression that part of the goal of the game was so people could
>> use this as a stepping stone for portfolio pieces, etc.
>>
>> Personally, I'd be embarassed to show anyone the game, and I'd just show
>> them my individual work if we went this route, but it looks like we have
>> already begun going that way anyway...
>>
>> Katie
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 11/11/09, Alan Wolfe 
>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Alan Wolfe 
>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> Subject: [project1dev] an idea, what do you guys think?
>> To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://mc/compose?to=project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 10:09 PM
>>
>> Hey so i think one thing we've learned from working on the RPG so far is
>> that it takes A LOT of art :P
>>
>> Even with a lot of artists theres just a ton of art to make and art takes
>> quite a bit of time and effort.
>>
>> i was thinking of a couple ideas to help with this...
>>
>> #1 - finding free / cheap 3d models and textures on the net and using them
>> for things that we don't care alot about (ie furniture perhaps or simple
>> props and things), that way we spend our "art time" on the things we want
>> custom which is the cool stuff like bosses and specific items and characters
>> perhaps?
>>
>> #2 - we could try to make some efforts to make art re-useable.  This is
>> hard for the void area since it's very unique, but for the mine we worked on
>> last, we could have for instance made "generic cave walls" art in a way that
>> it was re-useable.  When we have a library of re-useable art, building areas
>> should go quicker cause we already have art assets made.  We have the
>> ability in game to colorize art programatically so we can recolor and reuse
>> models as well too.
>>
>> #3 - we could change our workflow.  Instead of trying to push towards
>> milestones and have every area 100% done before we move on we could change
>> it up.  We could just build things up functionally with whatever junky art
>> we had (ie the temple as is would be fine lol).  As long as things are
>> working functionally we can move on.  I think if we went a route like this
>> it would be good to keep a list somewhere of what needed to be done
>> artistically such as "the temple needs real art and a decoration pass".  The
>> benefit to going this route would be that we could just keep building areas
>> and moving the game forward.  It may not look pretty but it should be
>> playable and it could be made pretty over time.
>>
>> but hrm, just throwin some ideas out there what do you guys think?  Maybe
>> we just say "meh" to art quality and get the game built with a whole bunch
>> of temp / programmer art and worry about making it pretty later on / at our
>> leisure?
>>
>> It would be nice to move onto the next area and start getting some story
>> together and real game play and stuff (:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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