[project1dev] Re: Use button plan of attack
- From: Matthew Morgan <MMorgan@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:14:13 -0700
I like that idea, kinda like sonar for secrets
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[mailto:project1dev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of eric drewes
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:19 AM
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Subject: [project1dev] Re: Use button plan of attack
the thing with alan's idea is it works hand in hand w/ our idea for
telekenisis, i.e. people w/ mental powers could have a longer rope... i dunno
though, it seems a little unwieldy though having to directly control it... i
think we'd have to see it in practice.
a side option to keep in the back of our minds if that doesn't seem easy to use
would be, we could have a search button that uses the same radius as the
interact, and when you search a place and there's a hidden interactive piece
near you, THEN you'd get the interact button.
I don't know
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Kent Petersen
<kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Both seems like a fine idea.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Alan Wolfe
<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
i actually kinda dig that idea cause we get the user friendlyness of the pop up
bubbles, while also still bein able to do secret stuff
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Nick Klotz
<roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I would say yes. Hidden interactables such as finding a secret passage way,
pulling a hidden lever, etc, could easily be made to line up with the body.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Alan Wolfe
<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
It seems like it might be weird cause think about this...
#1) you walk around and periodically a message pops up that says "Press A to
read the book" without you even looking at the book
#2) Othertimes you look at stuff and press A and it interacts.
ok actually that doesn't seem that weird :P
if we went that way, would the single ray from the middle be enough? we are at
the origional question again hehe
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Nick Klotz
<roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hidden interactables such as pushing a statue or bookshelf could make use of
the ray originating from the center of the body like you said.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Alan Wolfe
<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
That's a good idea.
The only downside i can think of is if multiple items are in range, we can make
it pick the closer one easily but if we have a lot of them in range it might be
hard to pick the one you want (although we also have control over this so if
you are ok with it it's not an issue).
Oh and another possible downside is we wouldn't be able to have hidden objects
to interact with cause every interaction would pop up that message. Like if
you interact with a statue it opens a passage way or something, it would be
real obvious. what do you think about that?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, eric drewes
<figarus@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:figarus@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
what if we just have objects that are usable/pickupable have a radius and if
you are in the radius a little button pops up that you can press, seems easier
from a player standpoint but maybe there are downsides?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Alan Wolfe
<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Ok so in 2d RPG's it's easy to tell what the player is intending to do when
they press the use button because the world is just one later and everything is
broken up into a grid.
In our game, since it's real 3d, we could have items like a book on the ground,
or a floating orb, or a book case that the player is trying to use.
Also, we could have multiple floors of map (like in cavemap how we have the
bridge over the boss area).
so that makes things harder. Here's what i was thinking for finding out what
the user wants to interact with.
1) User presses the "use" key (enter on the keyboard, A on the controller,
whatever)
2) The game shoots an imaginary ray out of the player that originates in the
middle of their body (ie bellybutton-ish) and goes the direction they are
facing for about a foot of distance
3) If that ray hit an object, that's the object they are trying to interact
with.
There could be a problem if there was a book on the ground the player wanted to
"use" since our ray starting at the middle of the body wouldn't hit the book.
There could also be a problem if something was floating above the middle of the
body, or if there was a hole in the object that the ray shot through hehe...
but, since we have control over where objects are placed we could just be
careful and make sure these cases never came up.
what do you guys think, think that'd work ok?
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