[project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
- From: katie cook <ktmcook@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
I personally, don't know any of these jerks...HA HAHAHA =)
--- On Fri, 7/17/09, Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 5:45 PM
I don't want you to feel like there's a thing between us Eric. If
anything I keep pushing too hard because I really do respect your
thoughts and vision. Credit the tension to my impatience, and our
mutual (in my opinion at least) want to be always right.
Something I am coming to realize is that I don't have the experience
you guys do working with each other. This is leading me to not
understand as much how everyone works together and gets things done,
and makes me think that things aren't going on at all.
Most of you have known each other much much longer than I have known
you all, too. I can't just jump to the part where I suggest stuff
without establishing the trust and comradarie (sp?) first.. but please
know, I'm trying!
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:31 PM, eric drewes<figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> its not between you and i, we can work together, but seriously just leave
> the art to the artists and stick with your area of expertise. i am sorry if
> i offended you, you got to me too and i lost my temper and i apologize. i
> pretty much feel like you and i have been clashing needlessly over a lot of
> things and i dont know how to reconcile the problems -- i have been trying
> and will continue to make my best attempt to get along with you but
> basically i feel like you don't respect my decisions or direction. every
> time i think we are on the same page, it doesnt last long
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah I know you mentioned that to me before... I don't know what to
>> say, it is really hard to say stuff and not come across like you
>> believe what you're saying :P It's my fault for letting Eric get to
>> me, but he's got a way with words eh?
>>
>> If it came down to Eric or me being here, I'd take off. He's got the
>> connections for the art people and that's integral to getting stuff
>> done.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Alan Wolfe<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Chris, you talk about alot of things you don't know about, but say them
>> > as
>> > if you know whats up.
>> >
>> > Such as saying the artists have their workflow wrong, or tellin me how i
>> > should be coding things when you are neither a coder nor an artist.
>> >
>> > You talk a lot of trash sometimes and when we call you out on it or show
>> > why
>> > you are wrong, you change your story as if you never said it in the
>> > first
>> > place.
>> >
>> > You are a buddy of mine but you are kinda hard to work with sometimes
>> > man...
>> > :P
>> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, I don't want it to look like ppl can't do stuff here cuz they're
>> >> busy. On the flip side of that, people will make time for things they
>> >> really feel psyched to do. I know you can't just get that lightning
>> >> in a bottle at a store and open it up, but sometimes we can do more to
>> >> make an environment where lightning strikes more often?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Chris
>> >> Sherman<cshermandesign@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I just want to defend eric in saying what he said. Direction works
>> >> > well,
>> >> > he's busy working on things I'm sure and doesn't have time to fill me
>> >> > in
>> >> > with fine details especially when its already been posted. Its my
>> >> > fault
>> >> > I
>> >> > haven't been following the project as closely as I would like to, I
>> >> > don't
>> >> > want people to fight but at the same time if shit needs said then say
>> >> > it. I
>> >> > hate it when people try to be polite to avoid "stepping on toes". If
>> >> > something needs said than it should be said as long as it has a point
>> >> > to
>> >> > it
>> >> >
>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> > From: eric drewes
>> >> > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:58:48 -0400
>> >> > To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Subject: [project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
>> >> >
>> >> > ok i take that back - but i refuse to work with asdf any further.
>> >> > sick
>> >> > of
>> >> > him not knowing what he is talking about at all and still feeling
>> >> > entitled
>> >> > like he can be critical of other people.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> i quit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> i think we are tilting at windmills
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> people have stuff to work on, we are working towards a common goal
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> wheres the problem? I dont see people working on any useless tasks
>> >> >>> do
>> >> >>> you?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It's not like nick is trying to build the temple and everyone else
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> off
>> >> >>> on the next milestone stuff.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Eric let people know what they should be working on and everyone is
>> >> >>> working on the right stuff.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> the fact that you or I dont know what people are working on doesnt
>> >> >>> mean
>> >> >>> it isnt organized, it just means we don't know :P
>> >> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Chris Riccobono
>> >> >>> <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I did say that once yes. It's true too, people will do things
>> >> >>>> much
>> >> >>>> more easily once they know what they're doing very clearly and
>> >> >>>> know
>> >> >>>> it
>> >> >>>> will be productive.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> If you know what you're doing, then you need to share it with
>> >> >>>> others,
>> >> >>>> instead of just saying things will get done at some indeterminate
>> >> >>>> time
>> >> >>>> in the future ;p
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> By the way it would help Sherman if you, as the art team head,
>> >> >>>> actually gave him input on what to do with the beast instead of
>> >> >>>> just
>> >> >>>> telling him to email Liz and Katie about it.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>> > Seriously chris you repeat this "they just need to know what to
>> >> >>>> > do,
>> >> >>>> > but no one is helping them with that" message often but it has
>> >> >>>> > no
>> >> >>>> > basis in
>> >> >>>> > fact :P
>> >> >>>> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> > From: Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:26:49
>> >> >>>> > To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>> > Subject: [project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > That's good to hear about Alex. I don't know about Sherman, it
>> >> >>>> > seems
>> >> >>>> > more like he just wasn't assigned anything so he didn't chime
>> >> >>>> > in.
>> >> >>>> > I
>> >> >>>> > know a lot more people read the list than post to it, just
>> >> >>>> > because
>> >> >>>> > they aren't as active in current things.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:21 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> Chris sherman hasn't checked in or participated in a cpl months
>> >> >>>> >> so
>> >> >>>> >> I
>> >> >>>> >> would consider him MIA... Katie is an option but she's been
>> >> >>>> >> busy
>> >> >>>> >> w/ other
>> >> >>>> >> art... I've been really happy w/ the progress alex has made :)
>> >> >>>> >> just an fyi
>> >> >>>> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>>> >> From: Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:18:39
>> >> >>>> >> To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>> >> Subject: [project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> This is a great overview Nick, thanks a lot for posting it.
>> >> >>>> >> All I
>> >> >>>> >> can
>> >> >>>> >> think of input wise is to tell you not to forget about the rest
>> >> >>>> >> of
>> >> >>>> >> the
>> >> >>>> >> art team - Chris Sherman and Katie have been making excellent
>> >> >>>> >> art,
>> >> >>>> >> and
>> >> >>>> >> from the looks of your list of requested art you're going to
>> >> >>>> >> need
>> >> >>>> >> all
>> >> >>>> >> the hands you can get. Getting everyone involved is definitely
>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >> >>>> >> plus. If you feel like Alex can take care of what you need
>> >> >>>> >> tho,
>> >> >>>> >> by
>> >> >>>> >> all means.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> What Alan said about being in sync is a great point, giving us
>> >> >>>> >> a
>> >> >>>> >> heads
>> >> >>>> >> up like this is really helpful :)
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Nick
>> >> >>>> >> Klotz<roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>> I've read a lot recently about confusion on where the temple
>> >> >>>> >>> stands
>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >>>> >>> what's next and who's doing what, so here's a break down as I
>> >> >>>> >>> know
>> >> >>>> >>> it.
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>> DESIGN - I am solely working on the functional design of the
>> >> >>>> >>> temple.
>> >> >>>> >>> Status -
>> >> >>>> >>> First floor [COMPLETE]
>> >> >>>> >>> Basement - All I have to do is place the elevator shaft, the
>> >> >>>> >>> functional
>> >> >>>> >>> design is [COMPLETE]
>> >> >>>> >>> Maze - 35% complete
>> >> >>>> >>> Ceiling Trap Room - 0% complete [ small but complex ]
>> >> >>>> >>> Beast Room - 0% complete [ undecided ]
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>> By COMPLETE I mean the functional layout only. Scripting for
>> >> >>>> >>> traps,
>> >> >>>> >>> placement of traps, and art is not finished.
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>> SCRIPTS - Kent is doing the vast majority of all the scripting
>> >> >>>> >>> for
>> >> >>>> >>> traps,
>> >> >>>> >>> puzzles, and room entrances and exits for the entire temple.
>> >> >>>> >>> Status - Uncomplete
>> >> >>>> >>> Needs - A lot of work (Kent and I will communicate as
>> >> >>>> >>> necessary
>> >> >>>> >>> on
>> >> >>>> >>> this)
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>> ART - Alex is working with me on the following objects, Alex
>> >> >>>> >>> and
>> >> >>>> >>> Eric please
>> >> >>>> >>> correct me if any of this is wrong
>> >> >>>> >>> Succubus
>> >> >>>> >>> Injured Man
>> >> >>>> >>> Treasure
>> >> >>>> >>> Pillars
>> >> >>>> >>> Textures for floors and walls
>> >> >>>> >>> Spiked log
>> >> >>>> >>> Torches
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>> Other art - Beast temple, Old man
>> >> >>>> >>> Anything additional I think I will want or need I will discuss
>> >> >>>> >>> with
>> >> >>>> >>> Eric and
>> >> >>>> >>> upon his approval, post it to the necessary people.
>> >> >>>> >>> Status - Incomplete
>> >> >>>> >>> Needs - A lot of work (and work current finished objects to be
>> >> >>>> >>> checked in)
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>>
>> >> >>>> >>> Any other questions or concerns about the temple please let me
>> >> >>>> >>> know! I am
>> >> >>>> >>> also open to suggestions, constructive critism, etc, so if
>> >> >>>> >>> anyone
>> >> >>>> >>> has ideas
>> >> >>>> >>> as always feel free to pitch them! Though the closer I get to
>> >> >>>> >>> completion the
>> >> >>>> >>> less likely it will be that things will be changed.
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