[project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
- From: eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:31:16 -0400
its not between you and i, we can work together, but seriously just leave
the art to the artists and stick with your area of expertise. i am sorry if
i offended you, you got to me too and i lost my temper and i apologize. i
pretty much feel like you and i have been clashing needlessly over a lot of
things and i dont know how to reconcile the problems -- i have been trying
and will continue to make my best attempt to get along with you but
basically i feel like you don't respect my decisions or direction. every
time i think we are on the same page, it doesnt last long
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Yeah I know you mentioned that to me before... I don't know what to
> say, it is really hard to say stuff and not come across like you
> believe what you're saying :P It's my fault for letting Eric get to
> me, but he's got a way with words eh?
>
> If it came down to Eric or me being here, I'd take off. He's got the
> connections for the art people and that's integral to getting stuff
> done.
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Alan Wolfe<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Chris, you talk about alot of things you don't know about, but say them
> as
> > if you know whats up.
> >
> > Such as saying the artists have their workflow wrong, or tellin me how i
> > should be coding things when you are neither a coder nor an artist.
> >
> > You talk a lot of trash sometimes and when we call you out on it or show
> why
> > you are wrong, you change your story as if you never said it in the first
> > place.
> >
> > You are a buddy of mine but you are kinda hard to work with sometimes
> man...
> > :P
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, I don't want it to look like ppl can't do stuff here cuz they're
> >> busy. On the flip side of that, people will make time for things they
> >> really feel psyched to do. I know you can't just get that lightning
> >> in a bottle at a store and open it up, but sometimes we can do more to
> >> make an environment where lightning strikes more often?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Chris Sherman<cshermandesign@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> > I just want to defend eric in saying what he said. Direction works
> well,
> >> > he's busy working on things I'm sure and doesn't have time to fill me
> in
> >> > with fine details especially when its already been posted. Its my
> fault
> >> > I
> >> > haven't been following the project as closely as I would like to, I
> >> > don't
> >> > want people to fight but at the same time if shit needs said then say
> >> > it. I
> >> > hate it when people try to be polite to avoid "stepping on toes". If
> >> > something needs said than it should be said as long as it has a point
> to
> >> > it
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: eric drewes
> >> > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:58:48 -0400
> >> > To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Subject: [project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
> >> >
> >> > ok i take that back - but i refuse to work with asdf any further.
> sick
> >> > of
> >> > him not knowing what he is talking about at all and still feeling
> >> > entitled
> >> > like he can be critical of other people.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:56 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> i quit.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> i think we are tilting at windmills
> >> >>>
> >> >>> people have stuff to work on, we are working towards a common goal
> >> >>>
> >> >>> wheres the problem? I dont see people working on any useless tasks
> do
> >> >>> you?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It's not like nick is trying to build the temple and everyone else
> is
> >> >>> off
> >> >>> on the next milestone stuff.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Eric let people know what they should be working on and everyone is
> >> >>> working on the right stuff.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> the fact that you or I dont know what people are working on doesnt
> >> >>> mean
> >> >>> it isnt organized, it just means we don't know :P
> >> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Chris Riccobono <
> crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I did say that once yes. It's true too, people will do things much
> >> >>>> more easily once they know what they're doing very clearly and know
> >> >>>> it
> >> >>>> will be productive.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If you know what you're doing, then you need to share it with
> others,
> >> >>>> instead of just saying things will get done at some indeterminate
> >> >>>> time
> >> >>>> in the future ;p
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> By the way it would help Sherman if you, as the art team head,
> >> >>>> actually gave him input on what to do with the beast instead of
> just
> >> >>>> telling him to email Liz and Katie about it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>> > Seriously chris you repeat this "they just need to know what to
> do,
> >> >>>> > but no one is helping them with that" message often but it has no
> >> >>>> > basis in
> >> >>>> > fact :P
> >> >>>> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> > From: Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:26:49
> >> >>>> > To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> > Subject: [project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > That's good to hear about Alex. I don't know about Sherman, it
> >> >>>> > seems
> >> >>>> > more like he just wasn't assigned anything so he didn't chime in.
> >> >>>> > I
> >> >>>> > know a lot more people read the list than post to it, just
> because
> >> >>>> > they aren't as active in current things.
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:21 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>> >> Chris sherman hasn't checked in or participated in a cpl months
> so
> >> >>>> >> I
> >> >>>> >> would consider him MIA... Katie is an option but she's been busy
> >> >>>> >> w/ other
> >> >>>> >> art... I've been really happy w/ the progress alex has made :)
> >> >>>> >> just an fyi
> >> >>>> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> >> From: Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:18:39
> >> >>>> >> To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> >> Subject: [project1dev] Re: Temple Update [Informative]
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> This is a great overview Nick, thanks a lot for posting it. All
> I
> >> >>>> >> can
> >> >>>> >> think of input wise is to tell you not to forget about the rest
> of
> >> >>>> >> the
> >> >>>> >> art team - Chris Sherman and Katie have been making excellent
> art,
> >> >>>> >> and
> >> >>>> >> from the looks of your list of requested art you're going to
> need
> >> >>>> >> all
> >> >>>> >> the hands you can get. Getting everyone involved is definitely
> a
> >> >>>> >> plus. If you feel like Alex can take care of what you need tho,
> >> >>>> >> by
> >> >>>> >> all means.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> What Alan said about being in sync is a great point, giving us a
> >> >>>> >> heads
> >> >>>> >> up like this is really helpful :)
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Nick Klotz<
> roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> >>> I've read a lot recently about confusion on where the temple
> >> >>>> >>> stands
> >> >>>> >>> and
> >> >>>> >>> what's next and who's doing what, so here's a break down as I
> >> >>>> >>> know
> >> >>>> >>> it.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> DESIGN - I am solely working on the functional design of the
> >> >>>> >>> temple.
> >> >>>> >>> Status -
> >> >>>> >>> First floor [COMPLETE]
> >> >>>> >>> Basement - All I have to do is place the elevator shaft, the
> >> >>>> >>> functional
> >> >>>> >>> design is [COMPLETE]
> >> >>>> >>> Maze - 35% complete
> >> >>>> >>> Ceiling Trap Room - 0% complete [ small but complex ]
> >> >>>> >>> Beast Room - 0% complete [ undecided ]
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> By COMPLETE I mean the functional layout only. Scripting for
> >> >>>> >>> traps,
> >> >>>> >>> placement of traps, and art is not finished.
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> SCRIPTS - Kent is doing the vast majority of all the scripting
> >> >>>> >>> for
> >> >>>> >>> traps,
> >> >>>> >>> puzzles, and room entrances and exits for the entire temple.
> >> >>>> >>> Status - Uncomplete
> >> >>>> >>> Needs - A lot of work (Kent and I will communicate as necessary
> >> >>>> >>> on
> >> >>>> >>> this)
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> ART - Alex is working with me on the following objects, Alex
> and
> >> >>>> >>> Eric please
> >> >>>> >>> correct me if any of this is wrong
> >> >>>> >>> Succubus
> >> >>>> >>> Injured Man
> >> >>>> >>> Treasure
> >> >>>> >>> Pillars
> >> >>>> >>> Textures for floors and walls
> >> >>>> >>> Spiked log
> >> >>>> >>> Torches
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Other art - Beast temple, Old man
> >> >>>> >>> Anything additional I think I will want or need I will discuss
> >> >>>> >>> with
> >> >>>> >>> Eric and
> >> >>>> >>> upon his approval, post it to the necessary people.
> >> >>>> >>> Status - Incomplete
> >> >>>> >>> Needs - A lot of work (and work current finished objects to be
> >> >>>> >>> checked in)
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>>
> >> >>>> >>> Any other questions or concerns about the temple please let me
> >> >>>> >>> know! I am
> >> >>>> >>> also open to suggestions, constructive critism, etc, so if
> anyone
> >> >>>> >>> has ideas
> >> >>>> >>> as always feel free to pitch them! Though the closer I get to
> >> >>>> >>> completion the
> >> >>>> >>> less likely it will be that things will be changed.
> >> >>>> >>>
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