[project1dev] Re: Project1 - SVN Update 754
- From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 13:28:16 -0700
i have some ideas, but im going to wait til the town stuff is more worked
out.
basically anything that needs to be saved / loaded has to live in a global
variable, but its ok if some specific data gets lost, such as scorch marks
on the terrain. Those guys don't need to persist across a save/load :P
We can worry about that stuff later after we get it working, to make sure
things get saved and loaded correctly.
josh is going to work on the actual saving and loading of the global vars,
and the file is going to be not human readable (ie slightly encrypted) and
will be protected from tampering via a stored hash of the data being
compared to hashing the data after load (if they dont match you know someone
screwed with the file). more details available if you are interested, it's
not too complex stuff actually (even if it sounds complicated)
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> could be interesting. Do you have any save load plans? Is that going to be
> something we work on soon or not until the end?
>
> I do all of my saving in a csv format basically. Would you do something
> similar or is there more organization that goes into it?
>
>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> cool deal (:
>>
>> it's going to be interesting making sure our save / load stuff works
>> right with all the crazy data like how many enemies are alive and what
>> their positions are, which buildings are damaged or destroyed and all the
>> other stuff :P
>>
>> might be a lil work hehe
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah sounds right.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> i would just include it into the main menu code
>>>>
>>>> then when they click "main game" (new game) it would call the
>>>> gamevars_clear function (that was defined in gamevars.lua). That function
>>>> would do a data_clearvars() to kill all global variables, then it would
>>>> have
>>>> a data_createvar() for each global variable the game uses.
>>>>
>>>> since those functions dont exist yet, i think gamevars_clear for now
>>>> should just set some starting value to each global variable used in the
>>>> game. Like it would set health to 100 or whatever the starting health is.
>>>>
>>>> sound right to you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that would cover it. How would you implement gamevars.lua.
>>>>> Would you just add an include for it in the config lua?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> cool deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also thinking that...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #1 - We need a Data_ClearVars() function which will delete all global
>>>>>> variables. We would call this before loading a game or creating a new
>>>>>> game
>>>>>> to make sure no values persisted from one game to another that shouldn't
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #2 - We need a function Data_CreateVar which you have to do before you
>>>>>> can read or write to any variable. If you try to use a variable without
>>>>>> creating it, it will throw an error. I figure we should make a rule
>>>>>> that we
>>>>>> are only allowed to use this function inside of gamevars.lua,
>>>>>> specifically
>>>>>> in the Gamevars_Clear() function. This makes it so all global game
>>>>>> variables are declared in one space, and if we mis type a variable name
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> try to use a variable that doesn't exist, it will throw an error and
>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>> see it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #3 - We'll need a Data_Save and Data_Load function for saving and
>>>>>> loading games, but i'm thinking those guys will take a save game name
>>>>>> and a
>>>>>> version number. This way, if you do something to the scripts like add or
>>>>>> remove a global variable, and the save game data is no longer compatible
>>>>>> with the script, you can increment the version number so that Data_Load
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> return failure if you try to load a save game of the wrong version
>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I put these guys on the coding todo list
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, yeah that makes sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hrm how about making a file, something like "gamevars.lua" and when
>>>>>>>> they click "main game" on the main menu (which should be "new game"
>>>>>>>> eventually hehe) it calls some function from that file such as
>>>>>>>> GameVars_Clear() which initializes all the game vars to sane values?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Kent Petersen
>>>>>>>> <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Think I should put the health variable in the ui.lua or what then?
>>>>>>>>> It only made sense to me to put it in the config.lua
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Alan Wolfe
>>>>>>>>> <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> oh... config.lua is a special case lua file, it doesnt have
>>>>>>>>>> access to all the functions that the other scripts have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the reason is, it runs that file before anything about the engine
>>>>>>>>>> is set up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bug? I don't think global variables are working. Check the config
>>>>>>>>>>> lua
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Apache User <
>>>>>>>>>>> dhapache@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> User:korgath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Message: I thought I checked in these files but it looks like I
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't so I'm checking them in again. Sorry if I did once already
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --tried creating global variable for life but it doesnt seem to
>>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>> --added life ui to main map (once again life value doesnt work)
>>>>>>>>>>>> --updated bat hold to pop out bats at a different rate
>>>>>>>>>>>> --fixed a type on bat
>>>>>>>>>>>> --fixed a typo on trollhut
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <Files Changed>
>>>>>>>>>>>> U ActRaiser/Scripts/Enemies/OverWorld/Bat.lua
>>>>>>>>>>>> U ActRaiser/Scripts/Enemies/OverWorld/BatHole.lua
>>>>>>>>>>>> U ActRaiser/Scripts/Enemies/OverWorld/TrollHut.lua
>>>>>>>>>>>> U ActRaiser/Scripts/GameOverworld/UI.lua
>>>>>>>>>>>> U ActRaiser/Scripts/config.lua
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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