[project1dev] Re: File Organization
- From: Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:25:52 -0700
I think its a good system. I think scripting should take the same format.
How would you like to name global variables?
What do you want to do about implementing the new naming structure?
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> oh and eric clarified that the first half of the game is broken up into
> chapters, but the second half isnt.
>
> so breaking the files up by location means we have both halfs of the game
> covered by the same system which is nice.
>
> It seems pretty good, are you guys down w/ it too?
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Eric just brought up the point that maybe we should divide by area instead
>> of chapter.
>>
>> I kinda like it cause it simplifies things.
>>
>> So like for the voidmap we'd have...
>>
>> /Art/Models/TheVoid/VoidMap/
>> /Art/Models/TheVoid/FortuneTellerTent/
>> /Art/Models/TheVoid/Temple/
>>
>> (with subfolders in there as necesary)
>>
>> and then lets say the next area we go to is a big forest that has a bunch
>> of diff areas, if the forest was named like "mystic forest" we could have
>> folders like...
>>
>> /Art/Models/MysticForest/LowerWoods/WoodsA1
>> /Art/Models/MysticForest/LowerWoods/WoodsA2
>> /Art/Models/MysticForest/AlpineArea/
>> etc
>>
>> ::shrug:: hows that sounds instead of the "by chapter" idea?
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Nick Klotz <roracsenshi@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> *thinking*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the input Chris
>>>>
>>>> "but we would try to not make a lot in case the game can't handle it."
>>>>
>>>> there is no problem with the number of files or directories there are,
>>>> in fact i think more is better because that means we have more detailed
>>>> organization.
>>>>
>>>> "In addition to that, we could zip or rar multiple textures into one
>>>> file"
>>>>
>>>> The game doesnt constantly scan directories or anything like that, and
>>>> storing the files in zip files would increase the load times cause the
>>>> contents of the files have to be unzipped when loading the assets.
>>>>
>>>> We could do uncompressed files like wad files. That would just hide our
>>>> assets so people couldn't steal them or alter them as easily.
>>>>
>>>> That might be a good thing to do eventually but we need an org scheme
>>>> for the wad files so are back at the same org problem (:
>>>>
>>>> But you are also for keeping the different types of files in diff
>>>> directories, thanks for that input too!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is a really tough one Alan, I don't envy you for having to tackle
>>>>> it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought hard on it and came up with a few things. A simple content
>>>>> based folder structure could work, so that the game can call files
>>>>> from appropriate folders easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> So it would have folders for each type of file:
>>>>>
>>>>> /models
>>>>> /textures
>>>>> /lua
>>>>> /sound
>>>>>
>>>>> In those folders you could make subfolders based on needs, but we
>>>>> would try to not make a lot in case the game can't handle it.
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition to that, we could zip or rar multiple textures into one
>>>>> file, and have the game read into that file when loading a model.
>>>>> That could help when a lot of files have similar names and don't need
>>>>> to be scanned constantly in a directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't think of more right now, but I agree that we need to find some
>>>>> way to organize things soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Alan Wolfe<alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Ok so this topic keeps coming up, maybe it's time to figure it out (:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > =============
>>>>> > Question 1
>>>>> > =============
>>>>> >
>>>>> > How do we want to organize files?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For instance one way, if our game is broken up into chapters (i think
>>>>> it is
>>>>> > but is that right eric?) we could organize by the chapter something
>>>>> first
>>>>> > appears in, as well as location.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For instance! voidmap and tent art could go in...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 0/Voidmap/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 0/Tent/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > then, lets say we start working on a town that leads to a forest that
>>>>> has a
>>>>> > lot of different maps (and lets say this is for chapter 2), we could
>>>>> put the
>>>>> > art in folders like...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/UberVille/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/UberVilleSewersA1/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/UberVilleSewersA2/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/UberVilleSewersB1/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/UberVilleSewersB2/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/MysticForestA1/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/MysticForestB1/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/MysticForestC1/
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Chapter 2/MysticForestC2/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > the "A1", "C2" etc is like, grid coordinates of the map (letters are
>>>>> X axis,
>>>>> > numbers are 1 axis?) so that for places with multiple maps, we know
>>>>> where
>>>>> > things are located kind of. It doesnt have to be really strict cause
>>>>> not
>>>>> > everything is square or grid shaped but as long as we do something to
>>>>> give
>>>>> > an idea of location and try to standardize it as much as possible it
>>>>> should
>>>>> > help a lot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ok so you say "well what the heck, you might go to a town in chapter
>>>>> 1 and
>>>>> > then revisit it in chapter 3, where does it go?" so i'm thinking it
>>>>> should
>>>>> > go in the place where it FIRST showed up, so in this case the town
>>>>> would go
>>>>> > in the chapter 1 directory.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ok so what about re-usable objects like trees, chairs, tables,
>>>>> treasure
>>>>> > chests etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What if we had a folder like...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > /Art/Models/Misc/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > and then in there we could have subfolders like "furniture" and
>>>>> "trees" etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That's my rough idea... good? bad? anyone got a diff or better idea?
>>>>> (:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > =============
>>>>> > Question 2
>>>>> > =============
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Right now we have art in one folder, models in a subfolder of the art
>>>>> > folder, and then we have maps, enemies and trap scripts in another
>>>>> folder.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Do you guys think we should keep files seperated or should we put
>>>>> them all
>>>>> > together? IE just have a "content" directory and scripts will live
>>>>> with
>>>>> > models and textures and sound effects all in the same folders.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If we have all the files together, on the one hand our content is
>>>>> more
>>>>> > organized cause it's all in the same directory structure, but on the
>>>>> other
>>>>> > hand there will be a lot more files per folder and it might get
>>>>> confusing in
>>>>> > places where there is a lot of art and lots of script etc.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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