[project1dev] Re: Faction reputation system

  • From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:02:14 -0700

Very cool, thats some neat ideas.

Yeah we could basically have faction w/ individuals too, that'd be kind of
neat.

Eric was talking about how you recruit characters by telling them what they
want to hear, i wonder if maybe certain actions you do might change faction
scores w/ your individual party members?

Like if you have a cleric and you are always doin the bidding of the undead,
she might start to not want to hang out w/ you anymore.

What you think eric? Did you want it to work where characters might lose
interest in the party once they are recruited or that they would hang around
always once recruited?

I can see arguments for losing party members due to faction rep loses making
the game less fun so shrug either way :P

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Chris Riccobono <crysalim@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> This is a really cool idea -  it is akin to one of my favorite rpg
> series ever, Star Ocean.  The things you do give you friendship and
> romance points, and depending on those values, different character
> scenes take place.  It also leads to characters getting endings
> together romantically, or the protagonist even joining up with one of
> the side characters to end up building a house together in the end.
>
> These scenes also influence the creation of skills, where a character
> that has enough friendship points with another one can show that
> character how to do their move better, and it becomes an upgraded
> move.
>
> I love the idea of using these faction points to track in game events
> though, it will help with a lot of things!
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Ok so part of this game is that each time you play it through it's
> different
> > based on decisions you make etc.
> >
> > My idea for this is 2 fold:
> >
> > 1) We have faction reputation.  For instance if you quested a bunch
> against
> > some gnome miners to get their gems for helping a king make a crown for
> his
> > new queen, whenever you do stuff against them you lose faction rep for
> > them.  That means when you go talk to them they are less friendly to you,
> > and perhaps even straight up hostile and attack you on sight.
> Alternately,
> > if you were friendly with them, they might sell you items, give you
> quests,
> > give you safe passage through their tunnels etc.  This is just like WOW
> > except i'm thinking we should HIDE a player's faction rep scores.  Dont
> even
> > show em.  The reason for that is that faction rep grinding is sooo
> retarded,
> > and also, if we don't show it, people won't as easily understand the
> > mechanism for why the game is different each time it's played, which will
> > give it the illusion of increased depth!
> >
> > 2) There will be certain things where when you make a decision one way or
> > the other, it just straight up sets a variable to a value (instead of
> > chaning a rep score).  So, in this case, you can have npc's check
> specific
> > variables for values instead of doing a rep score check.  That way, for
> > instance, like in FF3 when you choose to make the esper into a sword or
> keep
> > it an esper, if you made it a sword and visit some espers they might hate
> > you and say "we can't trust you, you would turn us all into magical
> weapons
> > for your own gain", but if you left it an esper they might say "welcome
> > friend".
> >
> >
> > Basically how i see bowh of these working from a technical stand point...
> >
> >
> > * We'll have a storage system for game variables.  From the scripts you
> will
> > call something like Faction=GetGameVariable("Faction_CaveGnomes");  and
> it
> > will return that variable's value.
> > * You can call SetGameVariable("Faction_CaveGnomes",Faction+0.05); to set
> a
> > game variable's value
> > * When you save your game, it saves all the game variables to disk
> > (encrypted to make for more difficult cheating!) and when you load your
> > save, it just loads the game variables back in.
> > * everything that we need to save - including inventory, experience
> points,
> > etc - will all be stored in this game variable system.
> > * it will also be used for things such as keeping track of which treasure
> > chests the player has already opened, and will keep track of permanent
> > status of things (ie is the cave caved in? if so different models will be
> > loaded when loading that level)
> > * when you make an NPC, right there in your NPC script you can pull up
> any
> > variable you want and do if statements against them to do checks for
> > specific items in the players inventory, do faction rep checks to see how
> > certain groups feel about the player, see what level the player is, etc
> so
> > basically you should be able to test against ANYTHING when deciding how
> the
> > NPC/enemy will react to the player.
> >
> >
> > What do you guys think?
>
>

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