[project1dev] Re: Character creation
- From: Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:52:09 -0700
yeah definitely...
but anyhow... we'll have to decide the details of how we want it to work.
We'll need to decide how we want to go about it before we actually do the
character customization stuff probably but i say we do that last.
That'll give me some time to code up the other stuff that's needed while we
think about this issue and keep it cookin in the back of our heads.
my POV anyhow (:
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:45 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yep
>
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> *From*: Kent Petersen
> *Date*: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:45:29 -0700
>
> *To*: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject*: [project1dev] Re: Character creation
> Couldn't we do a combination of 1 and 2. 1 for setting the type and size of
> the npcs and 2 have the colorization for making more armor appearances. We
> could even take advantage of alpha coloring to change the appearance of the
> armors
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> i'm actually thinkin we'd be able to cook up some NPC's in script, but we
>> could also have a "character editor" in the editor that would let you tweak
>> the values of character creation and save the settings which could then be
>> called up in script.
>>
>> like you build the wizard in the editor by selecting gender, setting body
>> type stuff, hair color and style, eye color, face, the clothing he's
>> wearing, items he's hold etc...
>>
>> then you'd save it as "Merlin" or whatever.
>>
>> In script, it would always call it up by name "Merlin" so that if you
>> wanted to, you could open it up in the editor, change the values (like "hey
>> this face looks better on him") and then the whole game would be updated
>> with the new art.
>>
>> The character would just be a special case of this where we provide an
>> interface to the player during the intro to set up the values that are
>> stored for the character's appearance.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> ok so i have an alterior motive for bringing this up haha
>>>
>>> Basically what i'd like to do is make a system where we can have
>>> different looking people wearing different (or random) peices of clothing
>>> and we can populate the world with them.
>>>
>>> So like... if you have a specific wizard guy you want in the game, you
>>> would (via script or NPC settings for this NPC)
>>> 1) start with the male model
>>> 2) say it's extra tall and kind of skinny
>>> 3) choose a specific face from a collection of faces we have
>>> 4) pick the clothing you want him to wear (ie wizards_robe_purple and
>>> wizards_hat_purple)
>>> 5) attach an item to his hand (wizard_staff_red)
>>>
>>> and bam we have our appearance.
>>>
>>> Or, let's say you wanted a group of rabble for a scene where the player
>>> was getting lynched
>>>
>>> you would say, for 20 people, do this:
>>> 1) choose a random gender
>>> 2) pick a random height and stalkyness from a range (ie if you want them
>>> to mostly be fatter and shorter - or you want the women to be tall and
>>> skinny and the men short and fat you can do this)
>>> 3) choose randomly from a set of faces you want on these people
>>> 4) randomly select various items of clothing and colors of that clothing
>>> that would make sense for rablle to be wearing
>>> 5) randomly give some of them torches and pitch forks
>>>
>>>
>>> If we come up with a general case solution to the issues of character
>>> creation / item and armor fitting we can do some really cool stuff
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> > think about putting pants on a man model vs a woman.
>>> >
>>> > women have curvy hips so that would make the pants model need to be
>>> > different so the inside model doesnt poke through etc.
>>> >
>>> > we could make all the women look like men, or maybe all women wear
>>> > only dresses but there are other options too
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> To make it easier you would just want to have the body and head types
>>> to
>>> >> keep similar dimensions
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Kent Petersen <kentkmp@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Helmets can just be attached to the head and remove the hair model.
>>> Body
>>> >>> armor could attach to the shoulders. I don't see it being more
>>> complicated
>>> >>> than attaching a sword or shileld.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:14 PM, eric drewes <figarus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> yeah ive been thinking about it a lot... ff3 and most oldschool rpgs
>>> >>>> didnt change appearance based on armor but i think ti is awesome
>>> when it
>>> >>>> does but i dunno the headaches are worth it. maybe in the body
>>> types we
>>> >>>> just have like 10 different ones with different clothing that the
>>> player can
>>> >>>> pick through and customize colors. then we could make more for
>>> NPC's, etc.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> i dunno what do you guys think
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Alan Wolfe <alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Okies, sounds pretty good
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> question though, when the player wears items / clothing / armor is
>>> it
>>> >>>>> going to change their appearance?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> If so, we'll have to find a way to make "1 size fits all".
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> The placement of shields etc will be easy cause we can basically
>>> >>>>> attach it to the hand bone, whatever animation / player settings
>>> have
>>> >>>>> the hand bone placed as.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> But armor however or clothing working on different body sizes /
>>> types
>>> >>>>> might be interesting....
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> any thoughts on that?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM, <figarus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> >>>>> > Yep, that's how I see it
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >________________________________
>>> >>>>> > From: Kent Petersen
>>> >>>>> > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 12:08:20 -0700
>>> >>>>> > To: <project1dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> > Subject: [project1dev] Re: Character creation
>>> >>>>> > I was thinking the player should be broken into multiple pieces.
>>> Hair,
>>> >>>>> > head,
>>> >>>>> > body, maybe another section. Then when you talk to the person it
>>> would
>>> >>>>> > ask,
>>> >>>>> > "are you male or female" then the body would appear male or
>>> female.
>>> >>>>> > Then if
>>> >>>>> > we wanted to do one more complicated we could have multiple body
>>> >>>>> > builds that
>>> >>>>> > you could toggle through. After that he would move on to the hair
>>> then
>>> >>>>> > head
>>> >>>>> > etc. Then when he was completely done you could go back and
>>> change
>>> >>>>> > your mind
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Alan Wolfe <
>>> alan.wolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>>> > wrote:
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> Hey Guys!
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> Since we are building the area where you set up your appearance
>>> i
>>> >>>>> >> wanted to start a thread on character creation.
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> To Eric: what did you have in mind?
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> To everyone else: what kind of ideas do you guys have for how it
>>> >>>>> >> should
>>> >>>>> >> work?
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> I have some ideas of my own based on tech stuff but i don't want
>>> to
>>> >>>>> >> skew
>>> >>>>> >> it (:
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
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>>> >
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