RE: visual basic jaws problem
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:45:38 -0500
I mean if you call for support they will not help you I did not mean it
doesn't work.
If for example you call for word they will help you through a problem.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:46 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
what do you mean by "they don't support it"
I am blind and I am using every dayvisual studio in my job with out any
scripts.
is true that I can not develope visual interfaces with the designer, but
sincerely speaking this is not my job, even in vs2003 where the designer was
fully supported I've developed ugly interfaces, so for a comercial company
we are not the best man to do interfaces.
Puting controls on a form in such manner that they will not overlap does not
mean that that interface is a good one.
But you can also tab between controls on the designer and jaws read them out
and you tab them in the tab order and you can take the informations you want
from status bar or from properties window.
What kind of support do you expect for visual studio.
----- Original Message -----
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <everett@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
> Ken,
>
> You said they don't support it "yet". Any guesses about how many decades
> it will be before they do provide support for VS?
>
> Everett
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:24 PM
> Subject: RE: visual basic jaws problem
>
>
>>
>>
>> Well while I think them pointing at Microsoft's site is amusing your
>> email
>> to them was very confusing. I am not sure what problem your really
>> having.
>> Now if you want help what you're going to have to do is actually attach
>> code
>> and a clear description of what your trying to do and send a question to
>> this list. Just saying something like I have two group boxes and radio
>> buttons in them doesn't tell us anything. There are a number of reasons
>> they won't work right from the group names being wrong, overlap, bad tab
>> settings, strange property settings, and even simple oddities that
>> Microsoft
>> throws in just to screw with new coders.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We here at the list and the developers at FS can't really help you if we
>> don't have examples of what you're doing.
>>
>>
>>
>> When Sina and I sent bug reports to FS on jaws 5,6,7,8,9 and I am sure I
>> will send one about 10 we would always include code, compiled executable,
>> and a very well thought out description of the problem. That normally
>> not
>> only got us a satisfactory answer but most of the time FS actually fixed
>> bugs. I am not saying they got right on it that minute but if they can
>> actually see the problem you have a much better chance of getting it
>> fixed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Another thing you need to understand. FS does not support Visual studio
>> fully yet. The scripts are written by a third party and writing them to
>> complain will probably get you sent to some page that does nothing for
>> you.
>> Oh wait not probably it did get you sent to a useless page.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:37 PM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Fw: visual basic jaws problem
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
>> <mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> To: Marvin <mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> Hunkin
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:28 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
>>
>>
>>
>> Tuesday, November 25, 2008
>>
>> Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific Technical Support. The best
>> place for you to find answers on getting Visual Basic .net applications
>> to
>> work with accessibility programs like the JAWSR screen reading software
>> would be at the following web site.
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/enable
>>
>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue,
>> please don't hesitate to contact us.
>>
>> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous
>> correspondence
>> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dennis G. Godin
>> Technical Support Specialist
>> Freedom Scientific Blind/Low Vision Group
>>
>> http://www.freedomscientific.com
>> Phone support: 727 803 8600
>>
>> Our Mission:
>> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products
>> and
>> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use
>> to
>> change their world.
>>
>> At 11/25/2008 01:04 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Marvin Hunkin [ mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx> ]
>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 5:52 PM
>> To: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
>> Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
>>
>> Hi.
>> using jaws 10.0. 512.
>> and for my applications, tabbing through the controls, and say for one of
>> my
>> examples, have the text boxes tab stop set to false, and then this is the
>> problem, jaws cannot read some of the text boxes, as the window is
>> covering
>> it, and then also the grafphic , above the main window or in the main
>> window.
>> and the title, and did maximize it, but it is still not reading fine.
>> the only way to get round this, was for one of my examples was to not set
>> the tab stop to false on my controls. when using group boxes.
>> and this might fix the problem, but still reading using the pc to route
>> jaws
>> cursur, still does not read all of the information correctly.
>> and also, in the code editor, tried reclassing the windows classes to
>> multi
>> line edit, and when i type, i do not hear the word or the . just not even
>> blank, and only when i hit the enter key, do i hear what is typed on the
>> screen with visual basic express 2005, never had this problem with visual
>> basic 2008.
>> now i am using visual basic 2005 express with sp1. for windows vista home
>> premium.
>> can you get your developers to see if they can replicate this problem, or
>> maybe do a jaws tandem session, then they can see what i mean, and some
>> of
>> my projects are still in 2008 format, and as i uninstalled 2008 and only
>> got
>> 2005, long story.
>> now, they will have to have both version of vb on their systems.
>> cheers Marvin.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Freedom Scientific Technical <mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Support
>>
>> To: Marvin Hunkin <mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:09 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: visual basic jaws problem
>>
>>
>>
>> Monday, November 24, 2008
>>
>> Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific Technical Support. In order
>> to
>> determine the best way to address the problem that you are having when
>> reading a Visual Basic .net application with the JAWSR for WindowsR
>> screen
>> reading software, we need to know exactly what version of JAWS you are
>> using. We would also need to know if the controls you mentioned are
>> reading
>> as you tab through the controls, etc. Please supply some additional
>> information in these areas.
>>
>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue,
>> please don't hesitate to contact us.
>>
>> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous
>> correspondence
>> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dennis G. Godin
>>
>> Technical Support Specialist
>>
>> Freedom Scientific Blind/Low Vision Group
>>
>> http://www.freedomscientific.com
>>
>> Phone support: 727 803 8600
>>
>> Our Mission:
>>
>> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products
>> and
>> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use
>> to
>> change their world.
>>
>> At 11/24/2008 08:19 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Marvin Hunkin [ mailto:startrekcafe@xxxxxxxxx]
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:41 AM
>>
>> To: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
>>
>> Subject: visual basic jaws problem
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> when i run a vb dot net application and try to route the jaws to pc
>>
>> cursur,
>>
>> and try to read the information, the windows is either covered, or not
>>
>> reading all the information, like text boxes, checkboxes, radio buttons,
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> and i have to use the insert b key to hear the information, and the
>>
>> application i created.
>>
>> can you fix this problem with jaws?
>>
>> am using visual basic dot net 2005 express, with the vs scripts,
>>
>> updated,
>>
>> windows vista home premium.
>>
>> cheers Marvin.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dennis G. Godin
>>
>> Technical Support Specialist
>>
>> Freedom Scientific
>>
>> www.freedomscientific.com
>>
>> Phone Support: 727 803 8600
>>
>> Our Mission:
>>
>> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products
>> and
>> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use
>> to
>> change their world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Dennis G. Godin
>> Technical Support Specialist
>> Freedom Scientific
>>
>> www.freedomscientific.com
>> Phone Support: 727 803 8600
>>
>> Our Mission:
>> To develop, manufacture and market innovative technology-based products
>> and
>> services that those with vision impairments and learning disabilities use
>> to
>> change their world.
>>
>>
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