Well said sir. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina Bahram Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:23 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: vb code? Uhm, wow, Tyler .... You do understand that for certain cases, Java is actually faster than C++, right? Try learning about java Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler Littlefield Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:20 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: vb code? Java? I'd rather not wait 10 minutes for a for loop to complete 5 itterations, thanks though. C++ is very "character building," and has many uses beyond API calls. C++ Just because you can do something higher level doesn't mean it needs to be done. I like the control and the ability to control everything with c/c++, as other programmers do. It also teaches you the internals of your operating system and compilers, without just floating around there like every other person who uses a high level language and just programs without knowing how things work. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield Web: tysdomain.com email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: vb code? > Concerning C or C++ as a language, I think it is important to learn its > data types, since they tend to underly the APIs of almost any operating > system, and sometimes there are not existing wrappers for what you want to > do, so you need to know how to make API calls to system libraries. If you > are developing operating system components or programming languages, > themselves, there is not a substitute for C. If you are developing > business oriented or web applications, however, stay away from them, in > lieu of much more productive and reliable languages! Only highly skilled > C/C++ developers successfully develop sophisticated programs without > memory leaks or other problems that lead to system instability. Do not > use these languages simply to "build character." Programming has advanced > beyond the need to dig into risky low-level details that have been safely > addressed by advances in languages that are more tuned to the human mind > than elemental machine! In general, the lowest level language that most > programmers need to use these days is Java, in my opinion, which handles > memory management automatically, has a vast set of libraries, and is > strongly cross platform. > > Jamal > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind