If you have a debian sid level machine available to you, you could aptitude install mono-vbnc -r and make your program in one .vb file then type vbnc program.vb on the linux command line and have vbnc compile program.exe for you. That will run on osx, linux, other unix flavors and windows with appropriate dot net framework installed. To learn more, look up mono-project with google. Novell released vbnc and other components for mono-project and I suspect this may be why the price change happened with vb8 at Microsoft. A mac with VoiceOver could likely run mono-vbnc though I don't know if the terminal version or the gui version would run in that case. Haven't used the mac version yet and will have to download that and check it out. I have and am using vbnc on debian sid to make an iching hexagram generator that's accessible and work is going well with that project. Rot47: <;F56]52D9:6==@?2GJ]>:=> -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 23:15 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: vb code? Hi all, Is there any way to write the entire text of a vb program? A friend of mine is in a class for vb and I am looking at his stuff since I want to learn vb; people say it is good for sound game devolopment. The class uses visual studio, which I really hate!! Is there any way that I can just write vb code in a text file and run it? The project made by VS does not seem to have just a single code file, like c# would. Am I missing something, or is this how vb is supposed to work, with no code and only clicking and adjucing properties with a gui to "code" a program? Have a great day, Alex __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind