Re: two questions: tab groups, and jaws control labeling??

  • From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:45:50 -0500

Wait a minute -- if you are asking how to tie a label to a control, you can 
just use the label xhtml element -- for example

<label for="minutes">Minutes: </label><input type="text" id="minutes" 
name="mins" ... />

  Just remember the label is linked to the control through the control's id, 
not its name. An id is different from the name in that the id is supposed to 
be unique in the file, whereas the name can be the same for 2 different 
controls -- for example, radio buttons are grouped together by having the 
same name, which is used by the cgi program to group the buttons.
The id of a radio button is unique and so can have a different label from 
the other buttons in its group.

Hope that makes sense.
Is this too low level?
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: two questions: tab groups, and jaws control labeling??


Makes sense, so as long as the label touches the top or left of the control
somewhere it "counts"? What if even a pixel separates the controls?


Have a great day,
Alex
New email address: mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: two questions: tab groups, and jaws control labeling??


> on the second issue, it is generally done with labels, and the label needs
> to be just touching the left edge or top of the edit field. so layout is a
> distinctly important matter.
> with list and combo boxes, many use the first entry to give the
> information, since labels do not always announce with these objects.
>
> and the edit field is a standard object with MSAA built in so the
> information that screen readers look for is already there; which is
> another note, it's better to use standard windows objects, or swt classes
> in java, than to use custom objects which need to have there MSAA added in
> manually.
>
> HTH,
> elf.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Hall" <mehgcap@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:00 PM
> Subject: two questions: tab groups, and jaws control labeling??
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I thought it was time to ask a question that actually related to
>> programming, so here is something that I have not quite understood: what
>> is a tab group? I see them in html and in GUI languages, but I am not
>> sure what good they are.
>>
>> My second, nearly unrelated question: how, in a gui, does jaws know what
>> to call, say, an edit box? If you had a timer, how would you code the gui
>> to queue jaws to prompt for hours, minutes, and seconds in the correct
>> fields? Is this all labels? If so, how important is the format of the
>> gui; that is, how exact do you have to be in positioning the labels and
>> inputs so that jaws can know what label goes with what input?
>>
>>
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex
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