ok, a bit more detail. I can set up an email account on my own server, the one the grab bag is on, and subscribe it to the list's, I can then go to that email account and tell it to forward the messages it receives to your work e mail for you, that way there not comming from yahoogroups or googlegroups sound good? thats if its necessary that is, which it sounds like it might be. elf proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Agemtree "merchants in fine facetted and cabochon gemstones" www.agemtree.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Homme, James To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:57 AM Subject: RE: state of the list as I know it at this time ... Hi Elf, I don't know everything you just said, but thanks. Sometimes I wish I could get paid for going back to school and learning what I really want to know. J Jim ---------- Jim Homme Usability Services 412-544-1810 james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim Homme Sr. From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:09 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: state of the list as I know it at this time ... well with all that you have given to the list Jim, if they decide to go with google, I'll set up a Email on my domain server, and subscribe it and forward the Posts to your work server for you, it would take me about 10 minutes of actual time to set up, so its no problem at all! and since its my server, I can even give the Email address a name similar to the list so there will be no confusion as to what it is on your end. take care, inthane proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!" www.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Agemtree "merchants in fine facetted and cabochon gemstones" www.agemtree.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Homme, James To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 4:09 AM Subject: RE: state of the list as I know it at this time ... Hi, As long as we have a working, on-topic list, I am happy except for one thing. Google groups traffic is blocked here at work, where I would most likely use the list. Whatever is best for all is what matters most though. Jim ---------- Jim Homme Usability Services 412-544-1810 james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx "You can do anything you want to if you put your mind to it" -- Jim Homme Sr. From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:17 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: state of the list as I know it at this time ... Hello Everyone, OK, sit back and take a deep breath. As usual, Freelists support has been shall I say not very helpful. Apparently, all three accounts that I have moderated messages going to are not working (one gmail, one personal domain and one university account). Also, Freelists support states that the messages can not be resent. For this reason, messages sent earlier today will not be seen by the list and for that I am very very sorry. So, here is what I have done. I have un-moderated the list for the time being. I will keep a very very close eye on things for the next while and if I see anyone going off topic and ranting or slamming others on the list you will be sent an email and asked to stop. If you refuse then you will be removed from the list and not allowed to post. I would also like to ask members of the list what they would think of moving the list away from Freelists to Googlegroups where I have had a lot better luck in list control and actually things working. What do all of you think? Again, my most sincerest apologies. 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