My two cents on this .... I think the recent list problems have mainly been due to how people have been using the list rather than due to limitations of the FreeLists technology, which seems to work well for the JAWSScripts, Program-L, and other lists. I agree that is dumb for list server software to get confused by the word "subscribe" in the subject, and other such anomalies, but think they have generally been rare and not interfered with the general functioning of the list. I think that changing to Yahoo or Google sounds like it would create as many problems as it solves. I suggest we stay with FreeLists but try to manage the human interface better, including more regular intervention by the moderator, less flaming, and perhaps monthly reminders about list commands, and a FAQ if we can find a volunteer to write one. Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind