Re: sql server 2005 express database design

  • From: "Richard Thomas" <rthomas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:10:46 -0500

Hi Andy:
The Asp and Windows both use the Framework to do allot of things. If the Asp articles use components from the Framework it should work in a Windows App as well. Anyway, I have never, at least not yet, worked with blobs, clobs or anything else other than the basic VarChar and other standard Column Types nor had to worry about preservation of a Word Document's control characters so I'm afraid I'm out of ideas big guy.
Perhaps one of the gurus will have more.
Rick Farmington Mich. USA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: sql server 2005 express database design


Hi...

I found lots of articles on that sort of stuff too. The problem I have is
that most people want to use asp and a web server to do this type of stuff
and I don't... I need an example of this in a c# forms program...

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Thomas
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:20 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: sql server 2005 express database design

Hi Andy:
Googling I found allot of articles on the subject of storing Ms Word
Documents on Sql Server DataBases but my Address Bar is messed up so I can't
copy and paste the links easily.
Anyway, they all talk about storing the documents as Blob or Binary fields, most Blobs. So scheck out if Blobs are still used or whatever is currently used in your version of the DataBase to store Image files and you should be
good to go.
There were articles on Storing and Restoring those files, mostely bits and
pieces in Forum threads but I'm guessing you could find a complete article
Googling if you get lucky.
Anyway, Hope this helps.
Rick Farmington Mich. USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: sql server 2005 express database design


I can try it a little later. Does all of that keep the original word
formatting? I.e. fonts, tables, lists, styles and so on? Or does it
strip  all of that away. I would need to keep the presentation of the
word file  (or  any of the files) in tact. Especially PowerPoint
presentations.



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal
Mazrui
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:07 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: sql server 2005 express database design

If your project is set to reference the Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
assembly, I think you can use syntax like the following:

string sWordFile = @"C:\temp\MyWordFile.doc"; string sWordBody =
Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.FileSystem.ReadAllText(sWordFile);

Then assign sWordBody to a VarChar database field.

Hope this helps,
Jamal


On Fri, 26
Oct 2007, Andy B wrote:

Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:40:01 -0400
From: Andy B <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: sql server 2005 express database design

Ok... Sorry. Maybe I should make things a little clearer (oops on my
part).
I have some good background in MySQL server work with db design and
light weight server admin. I haven't had much experience in creating
complex databases, but my business project is having me work that one
out. I am OK with c# and can usually find out how to do a lot of
things. What I need to know is how would you take a word file (.doc)
for instance, and use c# to actually insert the file itself (binary
data) into the db. From what I can see, it requires converting the
image/file into a byte array first and then putting it into the db.
My problem is that almost everybody uses asp.net 2.0 to show
examples... I
need c# windows forms to do it with... any ideas?



-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard
Thomas
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:18 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: sql server 2005 express database design


Hi Again:
You would have to define your DataBase:
then write a program to populate it with Data:
Then a program to access the stored Data:
Actually they would be classes designed around the Tables you build
for the database and the Window you want to use to look at the data.
What I would do, and have done. I wrote a Logger Class that I could
use to print things out easily into a txt file while testing and
debugging.
Then:
Wrote a program in CSharp to define the DataBase.  It may be better
to use a

script for this but it is the way I started because I knew a little
programming but no scripting at the time.
Then I wrote a class that generated some test data for the data base
and printed it out using the logger.
When that looked good I created a Window to display the data. That's
the process.  I wrote the first DataBase Definition in CSharp but
converted everything to Vb.net and have continued working in it today.
As for examples there are plenty of works out there you can find
Googling.
Problem is you will have to know what to look for.  For example,
programatically creating a DataBase, Creating a DataBase using
Scripts, creating a DataBase using the Sql Server Management Studio
Express etc. .. .
Read a little and keep asking questions.  You will use t-sql in any
case so that is something to get a quick overview of.  Also, Sql
Server Express and DataTypes.
If you are new to DataBases look at Create DataBase and Create Table
statements to get an overview of a DataBase's structure.
Rick Farmington Mich. USA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: sql server 2005 express database design


How would you do something like this? Any simple examples that I can
play with? I will probably be using c# to be the front end...

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sina
Bahram
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:19 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: sql server 2005 express database design


If you store the files in the database, you actually will get faster
performance, all around.

Take care,
Sina


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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:58 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: sql server 2005 express database design

Hi andy,
In my opinion, you should store the files in the file system and the
information about the files in the database. Out of curiosity, what
are you going to use as the front-end?

Thanks.

Jim

James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810

"It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is
to wait until I think I can do it just right."





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I need to write a program that references, categorizes, indexes and
allows searches (including full text searches) on data inserted into the
database.
Different data formats like Word, rtf, txt, html and other sources
would have to be put into the database. Is it easier/better to insert
the files themselves (i.e. insert the actual word file) or just the
text+formatting of the word file? Any ideas how to do this stuff or where
I can find out more?



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