RE: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
- From: Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:47:27 +0000
I have a server at home. It would be a while, but I could perhaps run an extra
web site. If we did a forum, you'd have to deal with the Comm100 Open source
Forum though.
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
I agree, this is unsettling.
I don't know if there'd be any desire for this, but does anyone else feel that
the mailing list is sort of... well... 1999ish in its execution? We all want to
be able to discuss a wide plethora of programming topics. But plenty of people
don't want to wade through a high traffic list. There are more evolved
community formats now, from Facebook groups and Google+ circles to full
forum/wiki/community blog implementations that could be hosted on a dedicated
server. It'd allow for people to filter the discussion they're interested in
while not having to restrict topics people can discuss, as seems to be the
Catch 22 Program-L is fighting with right now. I won't set it all up on my own.
I don't care enough, straight and simple. But maybe if I'm not running the
whole show by myself this is something that could be given some brainstorming?
It won't work though unless it has at least the beginnings of a community
willing to give it a go, and we seem pretty entrenched for some reason in the
old EMail listserv.
On 9/1/2011 4:22 PM, Michael Malver wrote:
If this is true, and java is off topic, then I am totally and completely
against the merge. I'll be damned if I'm going to join a second e-mail list
when the point of merging in the first place was to minimize the number of
lists a person would have to subscribe to.
If this is true, I hope someone will create a third list where all things
programming can be discussed freely. When that happens, hopefully everyone will
join it.
Here's hoping the message to which I am replying is just someone thinking out
loud and not actually policy.
From:
programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fwd: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
This just came through, for those of you who aren't on the program-l list. I
know it's past the due date for our input, but I have a couple of issues, both
of which I voiced.
First, I'm kind of lost as to why Java isn't aloud to be discussed because it's
"specialized." Sure there's another list for that, but if we're going to have
"specialized" lists, why are we merging in the first place?
Does this mean that sodbeans discussion is out? I've kind of followed along
with that, though I haven't played with it to much.
Second, I'm still curious why this is so hush-hush. I guess I'm worried that
we're going to get forced into a list that is not going to allow some of what
we have here. Sure some of it can be cleaned up, and George is the one to do
that; he's an adept moderator, but It almost sounds like the volume of messages
is going to be strictly controled for some reason.
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Subject:
[program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
Date:
Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:02:50 +0100
From:
George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
<program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
There's always a leak somewhere before things can be properly
announced, isn't there? However, it won't happen until 1st October.
Yes indeed the two specialist lists are to merge. Or rather, they
will be merged into ours. It was either that, or the other list could
possibly be closed down.
I have no doubt that it will initially swell the number of daily
messages, but I'm hoping that with some appropriate moderation, things
will keep on topic. If not, my steel ruler will be out rather
sharpish.
Needless to say JAVA will be considered off-topic as we have a list
for that (program-java), and if the need arises for other specialist
areas, I will have no hesitation in starting an appropriate list.
Sorry you all had to find out via the jungle drums, but please stick
with us. This has been a very professional list to date, and
hopefully long may it continue that way.
All the best,
George Bell
Moderator and list owner.
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