RE: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
- From: Katherine Moss <Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 06:47:43 +0000
Shoot. If you'd allow us to use Screwturn Wiki, I could set the whole thing up
for you, but ... never mind. That's ASP.net and I highly doubt you want to be
fooling around with Mod_asp.net. Though if you could let me in on the setting
up of things (I don't care what kind of web server the thing runs on, for mine
was just an offer, and now that I think of it, that's probably not a good idea
right now for me to take it anyway as of next year because I'll be hosting my
own site up there plus a whole bunch of other stuff), , I'll do what I can. I
can't say I would set up the entire thing for you (for college keeps me away
from my own site, so never mind another one), but as long as we find a Wiki
thingo that allows for email replies/integration/conversation via Email if we
have a message board, I don't care. And remember guys, that any offer you get
from the leader of the Accesscop network (http://raeder24.org soon to be
http://accesscop.org))me) or any of the rest of the crew (all of my friends are
just as techie as I am), we're volunteering our time because we are too
community driven for business. So keep us updated, and I will help set things
up and keep things going.
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 7:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
This is easy enough to run. I wouldn't recommend running it from a home
connection, as that can be reliable. I run three linodes, $20 per, which is
fairly cheap. Disk space isn't amazing, but it's not really needed if we're
just going for a wiki.
On 9/2/2011 5:47 PM, inthane wrote:
unfortunately, the trouble is with something like this, it can be a good thing,
but it can also wind up being a drag for the person in charge of it. we had a
site, with lots of stuff on it, tutorials, how too's scripts for various IDE's
on and on, but things got old and out dated, the persons running things got
tired and it seemed wasn't getting as much help as they needed, and let it run
down to a zero point and the name went back on the net as an purchasable
option. . there was some effort to revamp and turn the sight into a wiki run
item but that went by the wayside rather quickly. seems there was not enough
dedication to restore all that was torn down to make room for the new site. .
(note some may disagree on part or a lot of the all of this, I wasn't in much
on the actual site revamp attempts other than making a contribution in dollars
to keep the site running, but I did pick up parts of what was going on both
from public sources (here) and private ones (I knew the owner at that time)
and then someone must pay for either the server space (which can be done
through contribution, but takes drive to get folks going) or a computer such as
you offered, to run the site on, and what do you do if that computer breaks?
which even the best unit will break eventually?
Dennis brown ran things for years, and kept both the site and the list in full
swing, then he retired from it, we saw him once in a while with questions but
that was all, and then it all ran down to zero
now a real ... piece of work owns the old site name and as I stated prior to
this, wants 3000 dollars for it!
anyway, its going to take dedication and a lot of work to get a lot of this
running, the wiki or weblog may run well once set up, I have no clue not having
ever tried to start one working, but someone is going to need a lot of Patients
to get it going and up to speed I think.
good luck,
elf
"do not mess in the affairs of dragons!
for you are crunchy, and go good with barbecue sauce!"
- Draconous Cerulean
----- Original Message -----
From: Katherine Moss<mailto:Katherine.Moss@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 7:51 AM
Subject: RE: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
I suppose you're right. And it doesn't matter. I mean, if we're going to do a
forum, then we might as well have a whole site so that we can extend our
community for instance since this is a programming community, why not
consolidate all of the things we do, the message board, the chatting and stuff
into one place, have Jamal's stuff, our stuff, and anyone else's stuff on here
that they think would be worthwhile to this community? And then folks can
download our demos and stuff? That way there is only one consolidated resource
for all of the blind programmers. Everybody could get their own page and stuff.
From:
programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:22 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
>Because you have to type in Open source ASP.net forum. It's on CodePlex. But
>if you prefer PHP fine. I'm sick of this war anyway.
Meh. I wasn't taking a jab at you. I looked and didn't see it, I figured it'd
come up pretty quickly if I used asp.net, which I figured it was. Either way
though, I don't care. Right now we're the only two talking about it, so unless
we get interest in it, what forum we use is sort of irrelevant.
On 9/2/2011 8:16 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
Because you have to type in Open source ASP.net forum. It's on CodePlex. But
if you prefer PHP fine. I'm sick of this war anyway.
From:
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 10:09 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
I'm not sure what com100 is. It's obviously a forum, but googling for it didn't
bring up anything. I don't care, at this point who hosts it, but I really
recommend something that's been widely used for a long time and is open source;
phpbb fits that build. There are others out there that are popular too, but
using an app on a front-facing site that no one has heard of (5 minutes of
googling didn't bring up anything) is kind of a scary thought.
On 9/2/2011 7:47 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
I could do that, but my forum for my network will still be based on Comm100.
If you ant to take it though, you can. I really do not care. It was just an
offer.
From:
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:45 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
why? Just host it with phpbb, problem solved. It's widely used, easy to use and
incredibly easy to install. I'll host it if the need is there.
On 9/2/2011 6:47 AM, Katherine Moss wrote:
I have a server at home. It would be a while, but I could perhaps run an extra
web site. If we did a forum, you'd have to deal with the Comm100 Open source
Forum though.
From:
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jared Wright
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:59 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
I agree, this is unsettling.
I don't know if there'd be any desire for this, but does anyone else feel that
the mailing list is sort of... well... 1999ish in its execution? We all want to
be able to discuss a wide plethora of programming topics. But plenty of people
don't want to wade through a high traffic list. There are more evolved
community formats now, from Facebook groups and Google+ circles to full
forum/wiki/community blog implementations that could be hosted on a dedicated
server. It'd allow for people to filter the discussion they're interested in
while not having to restrict topics people can discuss, as seems to be the
Catch 22 Program-L is fighting with right now. I won't set it all up on my own.
I don't care enough, straight and simple. But maybe if I'm not running the
whole show by myself this is something that could be given some brainstorming?
It won't work though unless it has at least the beginnings of a community
willing to give it a go, and we seem pretty entrenched for some reason in the
old EMail listserv.
On 9/1/2011 4:22 PM, Michael Malver wrote:
If this is true, and java is off topic, then I am totally and completely
against the merge. I'll be damned if I'm going to join a second e-mail list
when the point of merging in the first place was to minimize the number of
lists a person would have to subscribe to.
If this is true, I hope someone will create a third list where all things
programming can be discussed freely. When that happens, hopefully everyone will
join it.
Here's hoping the message to which I am replying is just someone thinking out
loud and not actually policy.
From:
programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:11 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fwd: [program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
This just came through, for those of you who aren't on the program-l list. I
know it's past the due date for our input, but I have a couple of issues, both
of which I voiced.
First, I'm kind of lost as to why Java isn't aloud to be discussed because it's
"specialized." Sure there's another list for that, but if we're going to have
"specialized" lists, why are we merging in the first place?
Does this mean that sodbeans discussion is out? I've kind of followed along
with that, though I haven't played with it to much.
Second, I'm still curious why this is so hush-hush. I guess I'm worried that
we're going to get forced into a list that is not going to allow some of what
we have here. Sure some of it can be cleaned up, and George is the one to do
that; he's an adept moderator, but It almost sounds like the volume of messages
is going to be strictly controled for some reason.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
[program-l] Re: views on merging two programming lists
Date:
Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:02:50 +0100
From:
George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:
<program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:program-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
There's always a leak somewhere before things can be properly
announced, isn't there? However, it won't happen until 1st October.
Yes indeed the two specialist lists are to merge. Or rather, they
will be merged into ours. It was either that, or the other list could
possibly be closed down.
I have no doubt that it will initially swell the number of daily
messages, but I'm hoping that with some appropriate moderation, things
will keep on topic. If not, my steel ruler will be out rather
sharpish.
Needless to say JAVA will be considered off-topic as we have a list
for that (program-java), and if the need arises for other specialist
areas, I will have no hesitation in starting an appropriate list.
Sorry you all had to find out via the jungle drums, but please stick
with us. This has been a very professional list to date, and
hopefully long may it continue that way.
All the best,
George Bell
Moderator and list owner.
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Take care,
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