Well, after installing the correct version of the JDK, I unpacked the zip file, went to the primary bin subdirectory, and hit enter on sodbeans.exe, and it starts. That's as far as I've gotten/gone so far though. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Marvin Hunkin To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 9:32 AM Subject: net beans and sodbeans installation nightmares with jaws hi. tried to download and install et beans and sod beans. well not very accessible the installer. howcan i get jaws 11 to read the java net beans installer and also could not open the sod beans zip file. please help me out asap. once got both installed. how to use it and how to program. marvin. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5273 (20100712) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5273 (20100712) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com