Re: need a real programmer!

  • From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 17:12:49 -0700

see below...
On 8/3/2011 5:03 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:

Chris, I do think we agree, yes. Posts from Tyler bring out the worst in me, I appologise. Ken is much smarter than I am. That comes from experience and old age **poke, poke**, and just doesn't respond anymore. I'll try to do the same.

You and Ken have decided to ignore me because I pose valid points, and I dare to say anything is wrong with the crap you spew three quarters of the time. Can you tell me what I said in any of the last posts (apart from me calling most of your info BS) that "brings out the worst in you?" Does telling you you're not write on one point or another when you've already changed your whole point of view to agree with Chris bring out the worst in you? If so, I recommend you seek assistance and go find the nearest shrink. If not, I request your enlightenment. I've constructively disagreed with a lot of your comments, where as the backup you produce is "because I said so." You've resorted to calling me (and Chris, who you so kindly agree with now) an idiot when you're backed into a corner, and you still play these childish games. "Trying" not to talk to someone because your angry just takes me back down memory lane to third grade where I was arguing who was firstest in line. If introducing logic into the argument makes you that angry, there's a problem.

By the way, feel free to email me off list. It sounds like you've had some experience/background in the biz?

Take care,


*From:*programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Coale
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:06 PM
*To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: need a real programmer!

The reason I listed all of the Halo series as examples is because it is one of the largest game franchises in existence right now, falling only behind Call of Duty, who (imagine this) uses its own custom game engine. Now I'm not saying, and never did say, that companies don't use game engines. I'm saying that a lot of them will first develop an in-house engine for their games and subsequent games coming from them will use that same engine. For example, the list of games that use Source, as you showed me, are mostly developed by Valve (and they are ALL published by Valve). Valve developed Source as an in-house engine, and now the majority of their games use it -- imagine that. But again, I was never arguing that game engines aren't used (of course they are), just that a lot of firms will develop their own in-house engine first and then use those engines for subsequent publications and developments. Valve (Source), Microsoft, Infinity Ward, Epic Games, Bungie, Crytek, Ubisoft, etc. They all developed in-house engines for their games, and now they use these engines for their own publications and development.--

But really, my main point was that you seemed to think that hardly any work went into making a game. I would argue that it's one of the most complicated and time consuming programming jobs out there. But as long as you understand that, then we're all good.

On 8/3/2011 3:22 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:

the Source game engine is responsible for the Garry's mod physics sandbox, but also for these rather notable games:

Counter-Strike: Source

Half-Life 2

Day of Defeat: Source

Left 4 Dead

Left 4 Dead 2

Team Fortress 2

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic

Dino D-Day


Portal 2

beat-em-up Zeno Clash



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