Re: linux screen readers

  • From: "Jim Homme" <jhomme1028@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:48:41 -0400

Hi Tyler,
Read your message and ask yourself the same question.

Jim

On 9/15/07, Jeet <LoveForAll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi, very dear tyler,
> this message is not off-topic, but about to be, as our some friends are
> blaiming each other like:
> tony said: "> I do believe Inthane was joking.
> "
> and you are asking me:
> " Are you a new moderator?"
> no, I am not of course, but, don't like to read the things that are nnot of
> use,
> Hoap I am not hurting you or anyone, if so, please do that off-list, and
> don't extend this mail with such things...
> Very sorry, great love from india and delhi.
> --
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> "The Scourge Of Authoritarianism Is Intellectualism."
>
>
> Quoting "Littlefield, Tyler" <compgeek13@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
>  does this mean this message is off-topic?
>  Are you a new moderator?
>  Thanks,
>  Tyler Littlefield.
>  Vertigo head coder
>  "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features."
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>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Jeet" <LoveForAll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:10 PM
>  Subject: Re: linux screen readers
>
>
>  > Stay on topic please.
>  > --
>  > Contact:
>  > Skype:
>  > Jeet.delhi
>  > "The Scourge Of Authoritarianism Is Intellectualism."
>  >
>  >
>  > Quoting Tony Hernandez <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>  >
>  > I do believe Inthane was joking.
>  >
>  > Tony Hernandez
>  > For JAWS scripts for Paltalk 9.1 go to:
>  > www.tonyspeaks.com
>  > and search down the page for the heading "Paltalk and JAWS for
>  > Windows".
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:38 AM
>  > Subject: Re: linux screen readers
>  >
>  >
>  > No, No, No, this is absolutely not the approach to take. This
>  silly
>  > approach
>  > will absolutely not work to our benefit. This is completely
>  > convoluted and
>  > very stupid logic to want to start "beating" people once they
>  don't
>  > do what
>  > you want. Remember, we need something from them, and they need
>  > nothing from
>  > us, so it behooves us to kindly, very kindly request an ear for a
>  > few
>  > minutes in order to explain our plight. You must exhaust all
>  > resources
>  > before getting aggressive. What if after a kind request the other
>  > party
>  > agrees and begins to help? then all is well and we benefit
>  > immensely. On the
>  > other hand, what if you start doing stupid things such as getting
>  > very
>  > aggressive and threatening at the offset then demand help? The
>  other
>  > party
>  > will not only not want to help you, but they will have a very
>  > incorrect view
>  > of you and who you represent. Yes, the squeaky gear might get the
>  > oil, but
>  > we're not talking mechanics here, we're talking human
>  interactions.
>  >
>  > Gees,
>  >
>  > Matthew
>  > ---- Original Message -----
>  > From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:05 PM
>  > Subject: Re: linux screen readers
>  >
>  >
>  > > then it sounds like its time for those who are interested to go
>  > beat the
>  > > orca developers vigorously about the head and shoulders with
>  there
>  > canes
>  > > until they give the needed information, eh?
>  > >
>  > > smile, I have found quite often that the old saying "the
>  squeaky
>  > gear gets
>  > > the oil" is very true
>  > >
>  > > I'll even join in some, since I will undoubtedly need some of
>  > this
>  > > knowledge somewhere along the line, though the need hasn't come
>  up
>  > yet.
>  > >
>  > > take care,
>  > > inthane
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > > From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>  > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:08 AM
>  > > Subject: Re: linux screen readers
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >> From what I have seen there're no lists for orca scripting,
>  nor
>  > >> documentation available for it. I do think we should have this
>  > list,
>  > >> as we should perhaps have a nvda scripting list, sinse this
>  > reader is
>  > >> going really fast in its developement.
>  > >> I guess, however, I can not help writting tutorials about how
>  to
>  > >> script orca, because I even haven't found an explanation about
>  > how is
>  > >> the window structure in gnome apps (e.e if there are handles,
>  > control
>  > >> ids and the like). This is what I miss, it wouldn't make
>  seense
>  > to try
>  > >> to make an app accessible without knowing first what we have
>  in
>  > hands
>  > >> to do that.
>  > >> Marlon
>  > >>
>  > >> 2007/9/12, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>:
>  > >>> I definately have the impression that Orca and GUI access on
>  > Linux have
>  > >>> made major strides in progress this past year, so would
>  > encourage anyone
>  > >>> interested to check out this platform.  Sun, IBM, and Google,
>  > among
>  > >>> others, are committed to Linux and have shown genuine
>  interest
>  > in
>  > >>> accessibility.  I think they would welcome feedback from
>  blind
>  > people
>  > >>> doing GUI application development in that area.
>  > >>>
>  > >>> Does anyone here happen to know if there is a scripting list
>  for
>  > Orca,
>  > >>> and
>  > >>> if so, how to subscribe?
>  > >>>
>  > >>> Jamal
>  > >>>
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