Hi Tyler, Read your message and ask yourself the same question. Jim On 9/15/07, Jeet <LoveForAll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, very dear tyler, > this message is not off-topic, but about to be, as our some friends are > blaiming each other like: > tony said: "> I do believe Inthane was joking. > " > and you are asking me: > " Are you a new moderator?" > no, I am not of course, but, don't like to read the things that are nnot of > use, > Hoap I am not hurting you or anyone, if so, please do that off-list, and > don't extend this mail with such things... > Very sorry, great love from india and delhi. > -- > Contact: > Direct-cell: +919213153776 > Skype: > Jeet.delhi > "The Scourge Of Authoritarianism Is Intellectualism." > > > Quoting "Littlefield, Tyler" <compgeek13@xxxxxxxxx>: > > does this mean this message is off-topic? > Are you a new moderator? > Thanks, > Tyler Littlefield. > Vertigo head coder > "My programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features." > msn: compgeek134@xxxxxxxxxxx > email: compgeek13@xxxxxxxxx > aim: st8amnd2005 > skype: st8amnd127 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeet" <LoveForAll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: linux screen readers > > > > Stay on topic please. > > -- > > Contact: > > Skype: > > Jeet.delhi > > "The Scourge Of Authoritarianism Is Intellectualism." > > > > > > Quoting Tony Hernandez <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > I do believe Inthane was joking. > > > > Tony Hernandez > > For JAWS scripts for Paltalk 9.1 go to: > > www.tonyspeaks.com > > and search down the page for the heading "Paltalk and JAWS for > > Windows". > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:38 AM > > Subject: Re: linux screen readers > > > > > > No, No, No, this is absolutely not the approach to take. This > silly > > approach > > will absolutely not work to our benefit. This is completely > > convoluted and > > very stupid logic to want to start "beating" people once they > don't > > do what > > you want. Remember, we need something from them, and they need > > nothing from > > us, so it behooves us to kindly, very kindly request an ear for a > > few > > minutes in order to explain our plight. You must exhaust all > > resources > > before getting aggressive. What if after a kind request the other > > party > > agrees and begins to help? then all is well and we benefit > > immensely. On the > > other hand, what if you start doing stupid things such as getting > > very > > aggressive and threatening at the offset then demand help? The > other > > party > > will not only not want to help you, but they will have a very > > incorrect view > > of you and who you represent. Yes, the squeaky gear might get the > > oil, but > > we're not talking mechanics here, we're talking human > interactions. > > > > Gees, > > > > Matthew > > ---- Original Message ----- > > From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:05 PM > > Subject: Re: linux screen readers > > > > > > > then it sounds like its time for those who are interested to go > > beat the > > > orca developers vigorously about the head and shoulders with > there > > canes > > > until they give the needed information, eh? > > > > > > smile, I have found quite often that the old saying "the > squeaky > > gear gets > > > the oil" is very true > > > > > > I'll even join in some, since I will undoubtedly need some of > > this > > > knowledge somewhere along the line, though the need hasn't come > up > > yet. > > > > > > take care, > > > inthane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: linux screen readers > > > > > > > > >> From what I have seen there're no lists for orca scripting, > nor > > >> documentation available for it. I do think we should have this > > list, > > >> as we should perhaps have a nvda scripting list, sinse this > > reader is > > >> going really fast in its developement. > > >> I guess, however, I can not help writting tutorials about how > to > > >> script orca, because I even haven't found an explanation about > > how is > > >> the window structure in gnome apps (e.e if there are handles, > > control > > >> ids and the like). This is what I miss, it wouldn't make > seense > > to try > > >> to make an app accessible without knowing first what we have > in > > hands > > >> to do that. > > >> Marlon > > >> > > >> 2007/9/12, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>: > > >>> I definately have the impression that Orca and GUI access on > > Linux have > > >>> made major strides in progress this past year, so would > > encourage anyone > > >>> interested to check out this platform. Sun, IBM, and Google, > > among > > >>> others, are committed to Linux and have shown genuine > interest > > in > > >>> accessibility. I think they would welcome feedback from > blind > > people > > >>> doing GUI application development in that area. > > >>> > > >>> Does anyone here happen to know if there is a scripting list > for > > Orca, > > >>> and > > >>> if so, how to subscribe? > > >>> > > >>> Jamal > > >>> > > >>> __________ > > >>> View the list's information and change your settings at > > >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people > > just > > >> stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the > system, > > for > > >> free." > > >> Linus Torvalds > > >> __________ > > >> View the list's information and change your settings at > > >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > >> > > > > > > __________ > > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2529 (20070913) Information __________ > > > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Finally - A spam blocker that actually works. > > http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/4 > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Free pop3 email with a spam filter. > http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind