thank you Tony! although not completely a joke, for the main part, it was meant to be funny *Sigh* inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hernandez" <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:30 AM Subject: Re: linux screen readers
I do believe Inthane was joking. Tony Hernandez For JAWS scripts for Paltalk 9.1 go to: www.tonyspeaks.com and search down the page for the heading "Paltalk and JAWS for Windows".----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:38 AM Subject: Re: linux screen readersNo, No, No, this is absolutely not the approach to take. This silly approachwill absolutely not work to our benefit. This is completely convoluted andvery stupid logic to want to start "beating" people once they don't do what you want. Remember, we need something from them, and they need nothing fromus, so it behooves us to kindly, very kindly request an ear for a few minutes in order to explain our plight. You must exhaust all resources before getting aggressive. What if after a kind request the other partyagrees and begins to help? then all is well and we benefit immensely. On theother hand, what if you start doing stupid things such as getting very aggressive and threatening at the offset then demand help? The other partywill not only not want to help you, but they will have a very incorrect viewof you and who you represent. Yes, the squeaky gear might get the oil, but we're not talking mechanics here, we're talking human interactions. Gees, Matthew---- Original Message ----- From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: linux screen readersthen it sounds like its time for those who are interested to go beat the orca developers vigorously about the head and shoulders with there canes until they give the needed information, eh?smile, I have found quite often that the old saying "the squeaky gear getsthe oil" is very true I'll even join in some, since I will undoubtedly need some of this knowledge somewhere along the line, though the need hasn't come up yet. take care, inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:08 AM Subject: Re: linux screen readersFrom what I have seen there're no lists for orca scripting, nor documentation available for it. I do think we should have this list, as we should perhaps have a nvda scripting list, sinse this reader is going really fast in its developement. I guess, however, I can not help writting tutorials about how to script orca, because I even haven't found an explanation about how is the window structure in gnome apps (e.e if there are handles, control ids and the like). This is what I miss, it wouldn't make seense to try to make an app accessible without knowing first what we have in hands to do that. Marlon 2007/9/12, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>:I definately have the impression that Orca and GUI access on Linux havemade major strides in progress this past year, so would encourage anyoneinterested to check out this platform. Sun, IBM, and Google, among others, are committed to Linux and have shown genuine interest in accessibility. I think they would welcome feedback from blind people doing GUI application development in that area. Does anyone here happen to know if there is a scripting list for Orca, and if so, how to subscribe? Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind-- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." Linus Torvalds __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ NOD32 2529 (20070913) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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