Re: jaws9 beta

  • From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:45:26 -0400

Got one thanks, Sorry point taken and i'll not say more about it here on 
this list.

Rick


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: jaws9 beta


In this case go create a jaws related list where common issues can be
discussed. Here I think it is off topic, and I can understand the
point Jim tooke when he asked us to stop discussing this here. For me
the only topics that could relate to jaws 9 here are its behavior when
the subject is programming, for example I have heard in the
blindaccessjournal that it gives some support to ajax. If jaws 9 beta
or any other beta have some conciderable advances or differences in
the way it behaves with compilers, ides and such closely programming
related things I think the discussion is good untill some extent, but
asking for help with outlook or suggesting a thread to duplicate
issues or discussing which version is better doesn't seen an
interesting idea.
Marlon

2007/10/4, Rick Harmon <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> How about so others here can duplicate problems so more of us can report
> bugs to FS so they can be fixed?
>
> Rick
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
>
>
> This below is an example of why it would not be a good idea for this list 
> to
> allow any discussion regarding jaws 9. People conveying their problems 
> with
> the beta will serve absolutely no purpose as nothing can be done by any of
> us and the final release could be a very different monster. Why spend so
> much time and effort discussing a work in progress? Its completely 
> redundant
> work and effort.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matthew
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: <Tristan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > One problm about jfw 9.0 I am really having trouble with is that when I
> > have it first starting up when I boot my computer up, it doesn't tell me
> > when messages are unread in Outlook Express. I have to restart my JAWS 
> > 9.0
> > to make it say the unread notification before it reads the message
> > subject, and who it is from. It is wierd. Tell me what you guys think.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tristan Bussiere
> > Founder, ACE Games
> > http://www.acegamesonline.net
> >
> > Skype: tristanbussiere
> > MSN: Tristan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
> >
> >
> > totally agreed, reporting is great, anything else other than proposing
> > fixes
> > until FS gets to it, and I would say Pass those fixes to FS as well as 
> > us
> > would be a good thing, but any more than that is bellyaching and I agree
> > that it should be cut off, smile
> >
> > thanks,
> > inthane
> > . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
> > Links
> > to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
> > http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> > . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
> > languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
> > http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> > Saying what is wrong and confirming it among list members is fine. Going
> > on
> > for days about it isn't. I will go that far and I feel that's OK.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme,
> > Usability Engineering
> > Highmark Inc.
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 412-544-1810
> >
> > "It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is to
> > wait until I think I
> > can do it just right."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >             "Marlon Brandão
> >             de Sousa"
> >             <splyt.lists@gmai 
> > To
> >             l.com>                    programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >             Sent by: 
> > cc
> >             programmingblind-
> >             bounce@freelists. 
> > Subject
> >             org                       Re: jaws9 beta
> >
> >
> >             10/04/2007 02:33
> >             PM
> >
> >
> >             Please respond to
> >             programmingblind@
> >               freelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Agree, specially in terms of related programming things such as how it
> > works with vs and such.
> > Marlon
> >
> > 2007/10/4, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >> I hear what your saying Jim, but knowing what is "not quite right" in 
> >> the
> > j9
> >> beta would be helpful to the rest of us, eh?
> >>
> >> yes most definitely let if s know, but I would like to know as well,
> > smile
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >> inthane
> >> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
> > Links
> >> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
> >> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> >> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several 
> >> programming
> >> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
> >> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:57 AM
> >> Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I totally agree with this, and instead of complaining on this list,
> > please
> >> > constructively take the time to report issues to FS.
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> >
> >> > James D Homme,
> >> > Usability Engineering
> >> > Highmark Inc.
> >> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > 412-544-1810
> >> >
> >> > "It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is
> > to
> >> > wait until I think I
> >> > can do it just right."
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >             "Sina Bahram"
> >> >             <sbahram@xxxxxxxx
> >> >             m>
> > To
> >> >             Sent by:                  programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >             programmingblind-
> > cc
> >> >             bounce@freelists.
> >> >             org
> > Subject
> >> >                                       jaws9 beta
> >> >
> >> >             10/02/2007 08:28
> >> >             PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >             Please respond to
> >> >             programmingblind@
> >> >               freelists.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I would urge all of you to report like crazy.
> >> >
> >> > I've already filed at least six bugs, if not more, and I am hoping 
> >> > that
> > my
> >> > experience with the .net bugs repeats itself and they fix these 
> >> > things.
> >> >
> >> > Obviously, don't make them frivolous, and try not to make them 
> >> > useless
> > bug
> >> > reports such as those that are the fault of a particular software
> >> > application, instead of FS doing something wrong in jaws, but I hope
> > they
> >> > will take them to heart.
> >> >
> >> > the email address you should report to is:
> >> >
> >> > support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > I've been using the subject prefix of:
> >> >
> >> > jaws9 beta bug report
> >> >
> >> > followed by a colon followed by a space and then a short subject for
> > the
> >> > problem.
> >> >
> >> > It helps them a great deal if you include steps on how to reproduce 
> >> > the
> >> > bug.
> >> >
> >> > Good luck all
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Take care,
> >> > Sina
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