In this case go create a jaws related list where common issues can be discussed. Here I think it is off topic, and I can understand the point Jim tooke when he asked us to stop discussing this here. For me the only topics that could relate to jaws 9 here are its behavior when the subject is programming, for example I have heard in the blindaccessjournal that it gives some support to ajax. If jaws 9 beta or any other beta have some conciderable advances or differences in the way it behaves with compilers, ides and such closely programming related things I think the discussion is good untill some extent, but asking for help with outlook or suggesting a thread to duplicate issues or discussing which version is better doesn't seen an interesting idea. Marlon 2007/10/4, Rick Harmon <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > How about so others here can duplicate problems so more of us can report > bugs to FS so they can be fixed? > > Rick > > > -- > Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net > and my web Blog at: > http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ > Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: > blind_geek_zone-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and put subscribe in the subject line. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: jaws9 beta > > > This below is an example of why it would not be a good idea for this list to > allow any discussion regarding jaws 9. People conveying their problems with > the beta will serve absolutely no purpose as nothing can be done by any of > us and the final release could be a very different monster. Why spend so > much time and effort discussing a work in progress? Its completely redundant > work and effort. > > Thanks, > > Matthew > ---- Original Message ----- > From: <Tristan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:53 PM > Subject: Re: jaws9 beta > > > > Hi all, > > One problm about jfw 9.0 I am really having trouble with is that when I > > have it first starting up when I boot my computer up, it doesn't tell me > > when messages are unread in Outlook Express. I have to restart my JAWS 9.0 > > to make it say the unread notification before it reads the message > > subject, and who it is from. It is wierd. Tell me what you guys think. > > > > > > > > Tristan Bussiere > > Founder, ACE Games > > http://www.acegamesonline.net > > > > Skype: tristanbussiere > > MSN: Tristan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:48 PM > > Subject: Re: jaws9 beta > > > > > > totally agreed, reporting is great, anything else other than proposing > > fixes > > until FS gets to it, and I would say Pass those fixes to FS as well as us > > would be a good thing, but any more than that is bellyaching and I agree > > that it should be cut off, smile > > > > thanks, > > inthane > > . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and > > Links > > to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at: > > http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com > > . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming > > languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at: > > http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:53 AM > > Subject: Re: jaws9 beta > > > > > > Hi, > > Saying what is wrong and confirming it among list members is fine. Going > > on > > for days about it isn't. I will go that far and I feel that's OK. > > > > Jim > > > > James D Homme, > > Usability Engineering > > Highmark Inc. > > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > 412-544-1810 > > > > "It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is to > > wait until I think I > > can do it just right." > > > > > > > > > > "Marlon Brandão > > de Sousa" > > <splyt.lists@gmai To > > l.com> programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent by: cc > > programmingblind- > > bounce@freelists. Subject > > org Re: jaws9 beta > > > > > > 10/04/2007 02:33 > > PM > > > > > > Please respond to > > programmingblind@ > > freelists.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree, specially in terms of related programming things such as how it > > works with vs and such. > > Marlon > > > > 2007/10/4, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > >> I hear what your saying Jim, but knowing what is "not quite right" in the > > j9 > >> beta would be helpful to the rest of us, eh? > >> > >> yes most definitely let if s know, but I would like to know as well, > > smile > >> > >> thanks, > >> inthane > >> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and > > Links > >> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at: > >> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com > >> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming > >> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at: > >> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:57 AM > >> Subject: Re: jaws9 beta > >> > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > I totally agree with this, and instead of complaining on this list, > > please > >> > constructively take the time to report issues to FS. > >> > > >> > Jim > >> > > >> > James D Homme, > >> > Usability Engineering > >> > Highmark Inc. > >> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > 412-544-1810 > >> > > >> > "It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is > > to > >> > wait until I think I > >> > can do it just right." > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > "Sina Bahram" > >> > <sbahram@xxxxxxxx > >> > m> > > To > >> > Sent by: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > programmingblind- > > cc > >> > bounce@freelists. > >> > org > > Subject > >> > jaws9 beta > >> > > >> > 10/02/2007 08:28 > >> > PM > >> > > >> > > >> > Please respond to > >> > programmingblind@ > >> > freelists.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > I would urge all of you to report like crazy. > >> > > >> > I've already filed at least six bugs, if not more, and I am hoping that > > my > >> > experience with the .net bugs repeats itself and they fix these things. > >> > > >> > Obviously, don't make them frivolous, and try not to make them useless > > bug > >> > reports such as those that are the fault of a particular software > >> > application, instead of FS doing something wrong in jaws, but I hope > > they > >> > will take them to heart. > >> > > >> > the email address you should report to is: > >> > > >> > support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > > >> > I've been using the subject prefix of: > >> > > >> > jaws9 beta bug report > >> > > >> > followed by a colon followed by a space and then a short subject for > > the > >> > problem. > >> > > >> > It helps them a great deal if you include steps on how to reproduce the > >> > bug. > >> > > >> > Good luck all > >> > > >> > > >> > Take care, > >> > Sina > >> > > >> > __________ > >> > View the list's information and change your settings at > >> > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > __________ > >> > View the list's information and change your settings at > >> > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > >> > > >> > > >> > >> __________ > >> View the list's information and change your settings at > >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just > > stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for > > free." > > Linus Torvalds > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2572 (20071004) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > -- When you say "I wrote a program that crashed Windows," people just stare at you blankly and say "Hey, I got those with the system, for free." 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