the only thing I will speak on, is some notes on vista, yes its useable, and yes it seems more secure without additional applications than XP is out of the box, and the search abilities is superior to XP.
now for the flip side: 1. windows mail has some issues that make it more difficult to use.2. there are major focus issues with vista that make it a major pain in the backside. 3. there are a number of folks talking about disappearing folders on there drives that no answer has been found to, let alone for this trouble. 4. UAC is a major pain, but if you turn it off, you lose 80 percent of the safety features, and so are back to relying on third party security software, and... vista will not shut up about the fact that you turned UAC off.
if I dug through the e mails I have on vista I am sure I could come up with another dozen or so, but... those who like it swear its better, so it's back to a "matter of opinion".
regards, inthane----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: RE: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?
I personally only buy sony vaio notebooks. I had a really horible experience with hp notebooks. My wife will only use sony vaios, we'vebought notebooks from their ultra portable, to their more powerful systems. My desktops are also sony vaio desktops, they were the last of the sony vaiodesktop tower line.And I find it pretty easy to clean up my system and getting it to run prettydamned nice. Also, vista is not a horible operating system. Once you tweak it up, and stuff, it runs pretty great. Take care. -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler Littlefield Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 04:15 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? ever hear of the registry?There are keys that are left behind... Some of that a reg cleaner won't get.There are also folders left all over from some programs, like AOL. Thanks for the sarcasm, though. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:06 PM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?Ever hear of add/remove programs or programs and features as called in vista? They remove software that isn't wanted on the box. At 10:19 AM 12/13/2008, you wrote:ww. I've heard nothing but good about them... Until now. I don't mind them (from my limited experience), I just don't like all the software they pour on to the system. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx web: tysdomain-com Visit for quality software and web design. skype: st8amnd2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?I agree about Dell, although I have been sorely tempted to buy a laptopagain from them as Sina is managing to get big discounts on Dells becauseof the number he orders. I went to the Dell website and checked the model I wanted, and it at first 5 stars -- but then a couple weeks later it had only 3 or 3.5 stars. Go figure. Someone didn't like their laptop... My own experience with Dell: I had a laptop that wouldn't work. They talked to be and I let slip that it had fallen on the floor once, and they said that voided the warranty. So I paid through the nose for a fix. When I got it back it still wouldn't boot -- wouldn't even read the hard drive. I returned it to them saying they didn't fix it, and that they should get it to reboot before they sent it back to me. They returned it without looking at it -- same day -- and said the diagnostics all passed and that they weren't responsible for my hard drive not working. I removed the hard driveand connected it via USB to another laptop and the disk had everything onit -- no corruption. I called them several times more and argued, and they said the only thing they could do was walk me through the steps to recover the initial factory settings, which would have zapped all my data -- I removed my data, but the dell is still sitting in pieces in my room. If anyone wants it I can send all of it except the hard drive.I'm so furious at Dell for the way they handled it. They in essence toldme not to call back on that case any more. It is an old laptop, but since it is passing the diagnostics I don't think it is a total lost cause. I just don't have the time or or patience to fiddle with it. Sina -- are you still getting Dells? What is your opinion of Dell? --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Panes" <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? Hi Brian, Wow! That is amazing! My requirements when building a system are nearly the exact same. The only difference is that I will use Asus Main boards. If I have the bucks, I will choose a Plextor optical drive.But enough, the whole thread is supposed to be about buying a lap-top andthis does not apply. I echo the opinion, "Stay away from Dell.". The cost for the base machine seems to be quite reasonable, but the upgrades are hugely inflated and you void your warrantee if you take the machine to a third party to get it upgraded. You are much better off to deal with alocal, one of computer store with an excellent reputation. I have had toomany woes with Tiger Direct products to recommend them. Their warrantee is very difficult to collect on. HTH Regards, James jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Everything is easy when you know how." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:25 PM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? hi, i should have mentioned this before, i won't touch a dell because they are so proprietary and who knows what parts are used. except for my hp nx9600 laptop, i build my own towers with only intel boards or msi boards with intel chips, don't mess with amd chips, use kingston, crucial, or patriot ram, western hard drives, and sony or liteon optical drives though i'm not as picky on the dvd drives. I choose good fans and hd coolers, and I'm never forced to take crapware and will only get stuck with vista if it's my choice. Bryan Schulz The BEST Solution www.best-acts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?because some time is so hard to modify something... Look for example the del 1525 laptop. it comes with freedos and the manufacturer offers only vista drivers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" <b.schulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 2:48 AM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?hi, what do most blind people do to navigate life? they find different ways to do something the sighted just look at visually. Don't worry about what brand of computer. compare the specs without thinking of what operating system unless 64 bit is a factor. if you find one you really like but it comes with vista, don't bitch, spend about $65 to get a real copy of windows xp pro. i wouldn't think i had to say this. i don't know why people get hung up on worrying about modifying what they buy. Bryan Schulz The BEST Solution www.best-acts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Panes" <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions?HI Tyler, If you really insist, you can still get notebook computers with Windows XP Pro on them. A decent computer is well within your price range. Acer and a few other companies make computers that will do fine for what you need. Sorry I can't help more, but the only store I deal with is here in Oshawa Ontario. Good luck. James jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Everything is easy when you know how." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <BlindGeeks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:18 AM Subject: in the market for a new laptop:suggetsions? Hello list, I'm in the market for a new laptop.My max price range is about 1100. I'm not totally sure what I need; ofcourse I'm looking for the best deal, but I also need something that Jaws will work on. From what I've heard, jaws does not work on 64-bit vista; are there still laptops shipped with 32 bit, or even better XP?I know a lot of the computer companies started sending everything withvista. I've also seen things like 60 day trials and etc on vista; am I going to have to purchase a full copy after I get the laptop? 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