Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readers

  • From: Trouble <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:53:04 -0400

Software has many names before final release, and yours is a nice one to bounce around and have fun with. Even saw a woman on the list do just that. After all the code working name for vista before release was longhorn witch has all kinds of ways to go funny.

The point is not to go so serious witch some on list can only do.
Be leave me if the product is good, costs affordable and works on good base of phones. Then it will sell no matter what the release name is, and that is the best business advice there is for free.

At 07:06 AM 10/7/2007, you wrote:
Ah chris. But you surely don't think i would explicitly call it sex upon release would you? Just a list joke that's all. But speech Extreme is good enough for me, and who knows, i might even adapt it for the desktop and laptop environments in the future. Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative screen readers


Matthew and all, since I read this, I see your points. Maybe Freedom Mobile,
or something else not of a sexual nature, would be more appropriate than ...
you know. Thanks for sharing your points with us, greatly appreciated. Oh,
sorry for any offence caused.
Chris Hallsworth
BrailleNote mPower user
Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an
alternative screen readers


You're taking a very big risk in naming your product something that may
ultimately end up associated with a sexual innuendo. I'm simply guessing,
but I'm thinking many of your likely population of users will be blind users
who for the most part:

1. Your target population will be in their older years which means they will
not think talking about their phone in a sexual manner to be cute or funny.
Just think of the names of current cell phones out there. The names elicit
such things as chocolate or raspberry or something neutral for all including
generic numbers such as X30E5. It won't sound cute or funny if your mother
or grandfather has to call a family member for help with their sex cell
phone screen reader.

2. Though males such as yourself probably won't think much of this sexual
innuendo, the female population of possible customers may think differently.
You can choose to ignore this facet of the population, but 50% of possible
sales will disappear if you do so.

3. It will be difficult for a young population of possible customers to
convince their parent that a cell phone screen reader with a sexual tone is
a good idea to buy.

5. I don't know what country you're from, but outside of the major cities in
the US, talking openly about sexuality is still not easy for many to do.

6. When someone goes out into the internet to seek out product information
for your screen reader, just what type of WebPages do you think they will
generate when they search for the words: Sex cell phone, or, sex reader, or
any combination of sex and phone. If they don't know how to clean out their
history they might find themselves in some problems.

I'm sure there are lots of other problems with this idea that you've
obviously not considered thoroughly, but I'm just conveying these off the
top of my head--imagine what professional marketing professionals can
generate? If you've got money to burn on half-baked ideas then feel free and
continue on your path. Just posting my opinion on subject matter you're
posting publicly.

Matthew
---- Original Message ----- From: "jaffar" <jaffar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 2:52 AM
Subject: ideas and adaptations was re: need beta testers for an alternative
screen readers


Hi all.  First up, thanks for the overwhelming response to my appeal for
beta testers.  In view of the tremendous response, my wife and i have
agreed that i should increase the number of testers from 5 to ten. Within
the next few days, I'll be setting up 2 email lists, 1 for programmibility
and one for usability, so that the usability and programming aspects of
the application can be discussed separately.  I would also like to appoint
someone from here as a sort of adviser for myself, since this is all very
new to me, and my wife thinks it will be good for me to have one as well.
So, if you receive an email from a list that has "speech extreme" or "sex"
(smile) within the next 1 or 2 days, it will be from me.  Thanks ken for
the very innovative, ear catching and mind churning name of my mobile
screen reader software. you gave my wife such a fit of the giggles. Also,
there have been many contributions and ideas already, and if yours doesn't
come on board for this release, it will be implimented in the next one.
To be very honest, I'd have liked it very much for some of you to come
onboard, but circumstances being what they are, it will be difficult, and
it is a shame for, i could do with your constructive and intelligent
input.  However, when my product comes out on the market, please write to
me before you place your order and i'll work out a favorable discount for
you, just as a token of appreciation for all your help to me over the
years, which has enabled me to reach this far towards my goal.  Don't
worry, I've got your names already on my database smile.  Thanks all. And
for those who were successful, you'll be hearing from me soon.  Cheers!
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