RE: iPhone / Mac / VoiceOver was: Re: jaws and windows seven issues
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:39:21 -0400
This is incorrect you get the eyes-free utilities and you can use an android
phone in fact they have one of the best gps apps of anywhere it lets you use
the touch pad to specially figure out where you are its awesome. The G2 is
pretty snappy to.
Ken
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Subject: RE: iPhone / Mac / VoiceOver was: Re: jaws and windows seven issues
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Touch pads aren't yet accessible on android and depending on which provider is
used available phone models can range from large to nearly non-existent for
android on a phone with a physical keypad. If mutt and elinks ever get built
for android that would solve those two problems. Of course rtin and maybe tf
would also be nice additions too for the usenet and gaming crowds.
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 0:23
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Subject: RE: iPhone / Mac / VoiceOver was: Re: jaws and windows seven issues
The IPhone is fine in fact the amount of stuff that actually works good is
almost as good as Android and when it comes to email and web browsing better
than Android. I personally would buy an Android phone right now because of the
cool gps appps and stuff but I am waiting for this IPhone to die. Hmm well
partially waiting I already have an Android phone or two.
Ken
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:03 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: iPhone / Mac / VoiceOver was: Re: jaws and windows seven issues
Thanks Ken and Tyler.
Your comments about VoiceOver has made me very skeptical.
Ken: How does VoiceOver work on the iPhone then?
I really want to buy an iPhone.
I've heard so much positive comments of VoiceOver and the accessibility
on the iPhone.
Tyler mentioned that VO also crashes and restarts a lot on the Mac. Does
this happen on the iPhone as well?
On 13.10.2010 20:20, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
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> O yes, I forgot to mention: If you turn off voiceover, certain tasks
> (like copying files from location A to location B speeds up. I'm not
> quite sure why, but this shouldn't be.
> On 10/13/2010 11:41 AM, Ken Perry wrote:
>> Well be careful I have Mac and windows 7 and use windows 7 more. There are
>> little things that just don't work. I was coding in Python the other day
>> and if you right click on the environment the dialog comes up but voice over
>> doesn't see it. Or just today I was updating my IPhone to beta 3 using my
>> Mac book Pro and at one point it says to press the restore button while
>> holding down the option key. Now if you don't know the option key is what
>> you use for speech so you have to do control-option space to click on the
>> restore button. Well it don't work. I had to get a sited person to help.
>> Now I could have went in and changed all my settings so that control was
>> option but hey I still would have had to press control-option space to click
>> on restore so that would not have helped. This is not the only thing I have
>> found wrong with Mac either it's just the most recent pain in my back side.
>> If you find coding in Windows a pain in the butt you will find coding on a
>> Mac a p
a
> in from front to back.
>>
>> Ken
>>
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>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Øyvind Lode
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:09 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: jaws and windows seven issues
>>
>> I don't have similar issues on my Windows 7 64-bit box running latest
>> JAWS 11.
>> I guess your problem is hardware related.
>> I only have one problem on Windows 7 and that's the annoying console issues.
>> JAWS + Console on Windows 7 is a mess!
>> JAWS 11 + Console on XP is also a mess.
>> But using JAWS 10 on XP gets rid of the annoyances.
>>
>> I am now seriously considering Mac and OS X with VoiceOver.
>> I love the Linux command line with Speakup and brltty but I don't like
>> Orca when using the GUI.
>> Ok, I have not tried Orca and GNOME for some time now...
>> If someone on the list is using Linux and GNOME as their primary OS
>> please let me know how you're doing<smile>
>>
>> On 13.10.2010 16:54, Sina Bahram wrote:
>>> Ty,
>>>
>>> Question for you. If you stick an SD card or very fast usb thumbdrive into
>>> your computer and tell windows to dedicate the device to
>>> readyboost, does that improve things at all?
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Sina
>>>
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>>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler
>>> Littlefield
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:36 AM
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: jaws and windows seven issues
>>>
>> Hello all,
>> I am about at roap's end with this, so any help would be awesome.
>> first, I'll explain.
>> I'm not sure if it is jaws 11, or windows seven, or even hardware that is
>> doing this, but when I do anything (like open a program,
>> reboot, etc) it takes an amazing amount of time to actually open the program
>> or do whatever needs to be done.
>> Now, I thought this was a harddrive issue, because when I seek in winamp, I
>> will get some lag when it should be buffering more of
>> the file. Jaws also tends to studder when I'm running large installations.
>> Because of this, I went and grabbed Speccsy, and after checking my
>> harddrive's smart status, it returned that the harddrive was
>> good.
>> So, it looks like I am back at square 1 again. I really do think it is the
>> harddrive, or something blocking the harddrive from
>> actually working right, but I'm not sure how to tell what that is. Any
>> ideas? Maybe the harddrive -is- fine, and there is something
>> else causing the problem?
>>
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